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The information about VX stockpiles seems to be very speculative and dubious. The article on
VX nerve agent doesn't say that North Korea has the third largest stockpile, but says that the USA has destroyed its stockpile. I think it would be better to leave this out, since there doesn't seem to be a consensus among sources what the status of stockpiles around the world is, and it isn't very relevant here.--
Jack Upland (
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02:46, 25 May 2017 (UTC)reply
The other problem is the contradiction between the idea that the weak effect is the result of old stock and the idea that the VX was generated in situ by combining binary chemicals. And of course there is no explanation why nobody else came into enough contact to cause them serious harm. The entire presentation is more based on bias and assumptions than on anything else. There is no proof that North Korea was involved, there is no indication that the victim attempted to interfere with the government of the country, so no indication of any motive, not to mention the strange execution by "pranksters" and so on. I mean, really, how often do innocent young girls physically attack a stranger at an airport and in an action successfully coordinated to the second ? While keeping a strange fluid on their hands for minutes ? It only makes sense if you are already predisposed to believe that the North Korean government is evil and irrational so anything is possible. I wonder that this rather arcane "explanation" passes scrutiny by serious people and no alternatives are considered. JB. --
92.195.113.2 (
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15:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Siti's Release
We now have four paragraphs about Siti's release, thanks to
Night Lantern. This is excessive. All we need is a summary. Most of this content will be out of date in a matter of weeks.--
Jack Upland (
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09:21, 16 March 2019 (UTC)reply
@
Jack Upland: Hi. Thanks for reminding Mr. Jack. I understand, but that will be the last paragraph for her release with the insertion of several important views from other court members over the sudden release. Night Lanternhalo?09:28, 16 March 2019 (UTC)reply
An anonymous user has posted the following on my talk page:
Hi I just want to let you know that I have reverted one of your removals on Assassination of Kim Jong-nam. While it seems to be trivial Wikipedia isn't a paper encyclopedia whatsoever so I don't see any harm if we're being comprehensive on small but interesting details like that.
This refers to a story about a hacktivist called Cyber Anakin operating a spoof Twitter accounts. This is completely not notable. This kind of thing happens every day. We can't record every reaction. The page is currently over 100kB which according to
WP:SIZESPLIT is clearly oversized.--
Jack Upland (
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17:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Considering that the story was featured on major news outlets like BBC and Newsweek, even to the point of being
covered by Yahoo! News I don't see why it's "completely not notable", although I would be warm to the idea of "splitting it" considering the page size as you've said.
137.74.150.79 (
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18:47, 9 May 2019 (UTC)reply
I use
User:Dr pda/prosesize, which
WP:SIZESPLIT also recommends. You need to be logged in to use scripts (it could work with a browser addon like Greasemonkey as well). But the idea is to only take text (excluding lists, references and other non-prose material) and count how much disk space that takes. –
Finnusertop (
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20:27, 9 May 2019 (UTC)reply
OK, I was going off "Page information". That's good to know. I was not suggesting a split. I accept that the article is not oversized, as I said, but I still think
Cyber Anakin is not notable. However, it's not worth arguing about further.--
Jack Upland (
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20:35, 9 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Pardon my jumping in, that IP has since been blocked as an open proxy and partly because of that, Softlemonades mass reverted a
past addition to Reactions made by one of the users on the proxy, regarding self-described hacktivist
Cyber Anakin, who had in 2018 pulled some prank against a North Korean university website and featured on BBC and Newsweek.
User_talk:Softlemonades/Archive 1#UnBlocked Filed malicious report to have me blocked, overturned on appeal, admin concluded it was harrassment against me. Right after I was blocked this IP editor mass reinserted Cyber Anakin content citing my block
Already saw it. My take is that there are multiple users on the proxy addresses, some good and some bad. It's effectively fecked when a vandal took over their range and started trolling by impersonation, turning the serious dispute into a sh*tshow.
12.28.52.123 (
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14:27, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
Deleting without comment - Is that the new style here ?
I had written the following in comment of the above section regarding "VX stockpiles". My comment is intended to point out shortcommings of the current article since it does not appear to make a lot of sense and I was hoping that a discussion and re-checking of sources could lead to improvements of its plausibility. But somebody decided to just delete my comment without any explanation. So let me put that here in its own section and maybe have a reasonable discussion please. I am completely open to other opinions and do not desire edit-wars or any other kind of conflict. What I had written before:
The other problem is the contradiction between the idea that the weak effect is the result of old stock and the idea that the VX was generated in situ by combining binary chemicals. And of course there is no explanation why nobody else came into enough contact to cause them serious harm. The entire presentation is more based on bias and assumptions than on anything else. There is no proof that North Korea was involved, there is no indication that the victim attempted to interfere with the government of the country, so no indication of any motive, not to mention the strange execution by "pranksters" and so on. I mean, really, how often do innocent young girls physically attack a stranger at an airport and in an action successfully coordinated to the second ? While keeping a strange fluid on their hands for minutes ? It only makes sense if you are already predisposed to believe that the North Korean government is evil and irrational so anything is possible. I wonder that this rather arcane "explanation" passes scrutiny by serious people and no alternatives are considered. JB. --
92.195.113.2 (
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15:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)reply