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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was:
moved to
Ashes to Ashes (Kluger book) . Consensus finds that the "(Kluger book)" is the preferable form of disambiguation, as the book's subtitle is long enough that
WP:CONCISE concerns override the baseline preference for
WP:NATURAL disambiguation.
It has also been proposed that
Ashes to Ashes (novel) be merged into
Tami Hoag . At the time of this closure, no action has been taken to pursue such a merge; however, if
Ashes to Ashes (novel) gets merged or deleted, this move can be reverted.
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ModernDayTrilobite (
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17:13, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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Ashes to Ashes (book) →
Ashes to Ashes (nonfiction book) – There also exist
a novel of the same title.
An anonymous username, not my real name
05:41, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
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Comment
Ashes to Ashes (novel) does not appear to meet
WP:NBOOK and should probably be merged to
Tami Hoag .
162 etc. (
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17:48, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
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Comment If the merge is not carried out,
Ashes to Ashes (Kluger book) is the preferable disambiguation.
162 etc. (
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17:52, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
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"Novel Ashes to Ashes" produced several results in GBook search from
Isabel Ostrander onwards. But this book already has long natural disambiguation in print sources as
Ashes to Ashes - America's Hundred-Year Cigarette War, the Public Health, and the Unabashed Triumph of Philip Morris . WP:NATURAL would indicate that as a title.
In ictu oculi (
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21:00, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
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WP:SUBTITLE asks us to consider the
WP:CONCISE title as well; I'd argue that
Ashes to Ashes - America's Hundred-Year Cigarette War, the Public Health, and the Unabashed Triumph of Philip Morris is excessively long.
162 etc. (
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16:31, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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If the merge is not carried out,
162 etc. is right that
Ashes to Ashes (Kluger book) is the appropriate title, per
WP:SUBTITLE . The suggested alternative "natural disambiguation" is so long that, with Vector 2022, it may stretch over as many as three lines for some readers.
Graham (
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06:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.