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it is both historically and factually incorrect to state that the Nazi's used the Armanen runes. Where runic insignia were used, it was based on the Elder Futhark and the runes created by Karl Maria Willigut. See both 'The Secret King' - Stephen Flowers and Michael Moynihan, and 'The Occult Roots of Nazism' by Nicholas Goodrich-Clark. Now undoubtedly some 'wise ass' is going to come along and change it back, include the inaccurate statement and tell me I've not followed the appropriate procedure. But I'll just come back to remove the line, because it's basically wrong.
I guess it needs a picture to be relevant. Evertype 23:55, 2005 Mar 1 (UTC)
Why? This system is quite obviously fake. If some bonehead thinks he wants to know the pictures, let him go find them. If you had any doubts, the symbol "os" solves them. First off, by the rules of mutation, the name "os" in the younger futhorc comes from an older "ans-". So to say the original rune was "os" is absurd. Secondly, he says it means "mouth". "Os" is Latin for "mouth". To have one piece with a Latin name is absurd. These can obviously have no authority.
I would be grateful if you could edit a little more responsibly, sparing me the effort to scrutinize all your additions. How can you state nonsense like The Armanen Runes have been very influential in German-speaking countries, where they are better known than the Elder Futhark (or common Germanic Futhark)? Also, However, the Armanen Runic system is making a big impact in the English speaking Western world. is pure subjective hype, and listing a couple of internet pages does nothing to substantiate it. You would need to say "in the opinion of XY, the Armanen runes still have significance in English-speaking occultist literature", citing some study by Dr. XY. dab (𒁳) 11:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
p.15: "The personal force of List and that of his extensive and influential Armanen Orden was able to shape the runic theories of German magicians...from that time to the present day."
p.16: "Although [Karl Spiesberger] eliminates all the racist and völkisch elements, he retains the Armanen system of runes, which by 1955 had become almost "traditional" in German circles!"
alright, now a formal point, instead of repeating full bibliographic references in footnotes again and again, you should do a "Literature" section, where you list each work once, and say merely "Pennick (1995), p. X" in the footnote, this is far less bulky. dab (𒁳) 15:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
You seem to be misrepresenting your sources. You make a specific claim, and then link to like five websites as "references", without making clear what parts exactly your claim is taken from. Listing five books isn't good for backing up a claim as specific as "the Armanen runes are better known than the Elder Futhark". This claim either is on some page in some book, or it isn't, this isn't better than citing "see Congress Library" as your reference. Likewise, the claim that the runes are used in a "non-racist, pansophical" context is attributed to like five websites. Looking at Kasen's website, far from being "pansophical", the man is insisting on a "racial folk-soul" and "Holy Odinic vastlands". This is pure racialist-facist mysticism, and nothing like "eclectic pansophy". If one of these authors claimed such a thing, say which one, and where. dab (𒁳) 08:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
FK, I have my doubts this V.O.L. Kasen person is notable and should be mentioned among other authors. All he seems do have published is a geocities page, this might as well be some random pseudonym. Geocities pages don't really count as references. dab (𒁳) 15:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the following line "(Named writers)....have also disclaimed political implications, although the runes are still used in a clearly folkish context." as it is unclear as to whether you are saying that
A) the aforementioned writers are still 'folkish' in their own thinking or
B) that, despite their efforts, the Armanen runes themselves remain 'folkish' in nature?
As you are commenting on the work of others I think it needs to be clear as to exactly what it is you are saying.
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13:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be better with an image/graph of the runes with List's names on them, instead of dead links to runes not very interesting in themselves? Would anyone bother making one? 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * 14:12, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
'armanen or arm'anen? -- Jugydmort ( talk) 16:16, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
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I think the Armanen runes are worth to be added to the Unicode runic block. Because someone is interested in reviving runic script for Modern German language and they will be disappointed to find out that Unicode is missing some runic characters added to Armanen runes. They should be urgently added to the next version of Unicode (14.0, I think). 94.180.44.12 ( talk) 03:54, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes, and Wiligut Runes too, maybe Slavic Runes, etc. Ultima Thulean ( talk) 13:34, 20 December 2021 (UTC)