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This shouldnt need to be said, but all challenged material requires a reliable source supporting it. There dont appear to be any such reliable sources for what had been added (and re-reverted). nableezy - 05:57, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
I've removed the Russia Today news template from the page, as it had raised concern because it pointed to a single trending news page, rather than a selection of trend pages, and after discussion in the appropriate places, it's easier to remove it than it is to add lots of other trend pages, as I don't know of any (don't have time to look). If there are any comments, concerns, or suggestions please reply on my talkpage, as I don't watch this page. Penyulap ☏ 03:35, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
You might like these [1] [2] [3]. Please delete this post if not helpful (; Be——Critical 19:09, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
The map should be changed to reflect the lack of sources attributing governmental changes in Lebanon in June 2011 to public protest. There may be a connection, but sources don't appear to make it, as the fall of the government in January was not a result of the Arab Spring, but of Hezbullah's political machinations. I have corrected this in the overview section, but I don't know how to fix the map. Lebanon should be colored to match the "major protest" category, not "Protest and Government Change." Abu Casey ( talk) 00:37, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
At least on my screen, the country labels on the map do not line up with their respective countries. Does anybody know how to remedy this? (RNA) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.123.230.64 ( talk) 23:45, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Can whoever fucked up the diagram please fix it so the country names properly appear within the borders they correspond with?
The name Abdul-Ahadwas does not exist in Arabic at all. It must be Abdul-Ahad. I think the name was created due to a mistake (merging Abdul-Ahad and the verb 'to be'- was, when someone was writing in English). Any Arab or anyone who speaks Arabic would confirm that there is no such name in the language at all. Trent2012( Trent2012 ( talk) 11:13, 4 May 2012 (UTC))
Is the Tuareg rebellion really linked with the Arab Spring -- 91.22.122.248 ( talk) 20:25, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I think the 2012 Tuareg rebellion should be mentioned in the Impact of the Arab Spring section or somewhere along the lines of consequence or aftermath of the protests and wars. Because it is a direct consequence of the fall of Gaddafi. EkoGraf ( talk) 13:15, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
It is an armed conflict now, at least an insurgency-- 93.137.180.164 ( talk) 14:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
As an update to the entry at Talk:Arab_Spring/Archive_12#Article_for_timeline_of_the_Arab_Spring?, an article is now started at Timeline of the Arab Spring. Hopefully, it should constitute a proper parent article for all those country-specific timelines. Mikael Häggström ( talk) 17:23, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Should we add the year in front of the title like 2010-2012 Arab Spring. here are the examples
MohammedBinAbdullah ( talk) 11:47, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
I removed the dark grey for strife outside the Arab world (though I left it for Israel, which arguably is in the Arab world, though our article makes no mention of Israel proper that I can see), because I couldn't get an answer from the talk page as to what qualified a country for inclusion. Greece, for example: what does their financial meltdown have to do with the Arab Spring? Iran I could see, as a forerunner, but we didn't include Mali (until I added it), despite obvious links.
So, do we want such a category on the map? Should Israel continue to be shaded? What would qualify a country for inclusion? If it's going to be 'protests that drew inspiration from the Arab Spring', wouldn't we need a world map so we could include the US and China? — kwami ( talk) 21:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Should the West Bank really be light blue? What are the govt changes that have been implemented due to protests there? — kwami ( talk) 02:13, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
One should take strong offence to the statement given by kwami regarding Israel being part of the Arab world. Such statements are disruptive in nature and appear to be fashioned with the intention of inciting unrest amongst editors on Wikipedia. Regardless of what you think should be part of the Arab World, Wikipedia is not the place to air those contentions. And definitely not on an article such as this. Sonarclawz ( talk) 10:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Neither does your contribution contribute anything. Do you have to raise Israel everywhere even if it has nothing at all to do with the issue?? Sonarclawz ( talk) 14:20, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
What about Iranian Khuzestan with the 2011 Khuzestan protests? Greyshark09 ( talk) 20:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Where are the latest events about Mauritania, Jordan, and Oman?
Mauritania - http://news.yahoo.com/mauritania-police-break-anti-regime-protest-teargas-195057055.html
Jordan - http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/04/26/uk-jordan-government-idUKBRE83P0TV20120426
Oman - http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/police-detain-oman-protesters-1.1316505
175.137.55.62 ( talk) 11:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
There's an ongoing unrest in Sudan regarding the anti-austerity protests starting from 16 June. Can someone go into that page and help add it? Thanks 175.144.124.216 ( talk) 14:46, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- I agree. The protests in sudan should be tagged as major protests, marked in the orange color in the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.181.209.239 ( talk) 12:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Nah, its not yet a major demonstration. Only few hundreds of them protest it, but not thousands. However, I urge everybody to come and contribute more on the Sudan protest page. The protests is no more just a protest, but its currently undergoing in the uprising style. There's a lot of photos and some citations needed to be add on. Thanks. 110.159.62.170 ( talk) 10:03, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Some one changed the map and chart in the "overview" section, calling Syrian crisis a civil war. However, in the "Syrian uprising (2011-present)" talk page, there has been no consensus on changing the name of the conflict to Syrian civil war. The map and chart needs to be changed back. -- Futuretrillionaire 16:13, 30 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Futuretrillionaire ( talk • contribs)
I'm sorry, user Ericl. This is not the place to argue about the Syrian title name. Please go back to that Syrian article discussion page and debate before coming back here and change or argue with. Until then, the word "Uprising" MUST stay for now. 115.134.116.182 ( talk) 13:52, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Can somebody help to upload some #SudanRevolt photos and pictures in the Wikicommon so that we could put it into the Sudan protests article? 115.134.116.182 ( talk) 13:54, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
We have to decide whether Mali and Djibouti are part of the Arab Spring or the Impact of the Arab Spring. On one hand, Djibouti is part of the Arab League, and Arabic speaking, but is not Arab ethnically; Mali was directly affected by the Libyan Civil War and its Arab minority took an active part in the 2012 conflict in North Mali (both siding with rebels and against), but Mali is not an Arab country and not part of the Arab League. For now, the countries are specified both here and in the impact article, so it needs to be decided where they belong. Greyshark09 ( talk) 21:23, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't Djibouti be colored in gray on the map as well?
Debona.michel (
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12:50, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Protests are already ended. So should we end it? And change the image colors too? Clarificationgiven ( talk) 10:45, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
There's an ongoing protests in the Eastern region of Saudi Arabia following the arrest of the Shia anti-regime cleric, and two more got killed. 115.135.105.140 ( talk) 09:15, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
They cannot be labelled as "major protest" because the protests only concentrated on Eastern province and a very minority number of protesters are reported in Riyadh, Jeddah and Medina. If the whole or at least 3/4 of the whole country has erupted into protests whereby they bring out large number of protests, then we might consider changing it, just like what we will do to the Sudan revolution if the same thing happens. But like the current situation in Sudan, it should stay as "minor protests" for now.
Myronbeg ( talk) 09:20, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh okay. I probably just misquote your comment. My apology. Myronbeg ( talk) 13:56, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
I hate to bargain this but if the uncommon protests like Mauritania, Western Sahara, UAE, Oman and Iran were listed in this page, isn't Qatar too should be included? Of course we know that Qatar hasn't experience NOT even a single protests, but there were few incidents occur during the past Arab Revolution phases that we should take note, just to let you know:
For example, the last year Facebook page calling for Qatari removal but it was later taken down:
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/02/24/idINIndia-55131320110224
Then, there was an incident where a coup was claimed to have taken place against the Emir of Qatar:
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9101142299
And now, there was another call for next year's March 16 revolution:
http://www.tehrantimes.com/middle-east/99939-dissidents-call-for-public-protests-against-doha-regime-us-bases-in-qatar
110.159.60.4 ( talk) 09:13, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Where is it? The unrest did not spring fully-formed out of the ether. The global financial collapse materially affected the entire region, as did foreign political, financial and military intervention. Some analysis of this is warranted - somewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.33.63 ( talk) 14:30, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
I have uploaded at least one image of the #Sudanrevolts but I can't tell if that image was valid since this is my first upload of the actual photo. Feel free to look at it and if possible, nominate the deletion if have too. Thank you. Myronbeg ( talk) 14:23, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Should Iraqi Kurdistan be included as part of the Arab Spring, solely because it is part of Iraq? There we saw major protests and civil unrest. I think we should separate it form Iraq in this article and then have a section on the events that conspired there. what do you think? 86.161.204.75 ( talk) 19:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Can somebody help me make the summary for the Sudanese anti-austerity protests? The article is getting longer nowadays. Thank you. Myronbeg ( talk) 11:11, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
I don't get the scenario where just because there was an election in Morocco, the protests has ended. There are few bunches of protests against the new Islamist government of Morocco ongoing for months, and the article was gettin' outdated. Therefore I have switched the Status of protest of Ended in November 2011 back to Ongoing to indicate that the protests doesn't end.
Thanks Myronbeg ( talk) 11:42, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Sudan should be upgraded from the category of minor protests to that of major protests on this article's map and reference table. Things have escalated significantly the past few weeks. Protesters are no longer just calling for reform, but a Libya-esque uprising. This has seen coverage by many news agencies; Al Jazeera probably has the most comprehensive: [4]. A number of sources are available there that refer to the conflict as major protests, and even pre-uprising. I didn't want to go ahead and do this without warning or discussion, so does anyone disagree? JamesA >talk 13:19, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Sudan has NOT experience any major protests. Continued demonstrations, yes. Major protests, no. Thats the difference. The media sources has said the Sudanese has YET to bring up large numbers of them similar to Egypt and Yemen. So for now we have to stick to "minor protests"; although its still better if somebody can help contribute more to that article. And besides, the opposition has call for overthrow of the regime, but so far we never seen them bringing their supporters out to the streets everyday.
http://news.yahoo.com/sudan-police-teargas-protesters-friday-prayers-135139921.html
Myronbeg ( talk) 09:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, but that was Nyala only, not the whole nationwide. We will only consider that if the media were to say its major protests in the "whole Sudan". Myronbeg ( talk) 07:02, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
There a Feedback page found here. Some are just general comments on the topic, but few are constructive to the development of the article. Mohamed CJ (talk) 14:36, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
User Jeancey has been reversing my updates to the Libyan flag by saying "The old Libya is where the protests happened, so the old flag is used". But I strongly disagree. Here is my reason: The flag of Libya should reflect its current status. The section itself talks about Gaddafi's government having been overthrown, thus the Libyan flag displayed should reflect that status, or else it would be false and misleading to the readers of the article.
I have another point to make. Using Jeancey's own argument I will make another case for using the current flag, here is why: The fact of the matter is that protests and low-level violent incidents continue to occur (just 3 days ago there was an explosion in the military intellignce HQ of Benghazi), thus the February 17 Libyan revolution continues and is far from over in achieving all of its goals. Therefore the protests did not only happen in Gaddafi's Libya, but also in present Libya.
Moester101 (
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03:51, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Your whole arugement of an "old libya" vs. "new libya" during the conflict is unreasonable. You are claiming that the war happened in "old libya" (Gaddafi Libya) so that we should only use the old flag. But the fact is, during the entire conflict (not just the very end like you try to say) there were two governments on the ground in Libya, not just the "old libya" that you keep mentioning. Large swathes of secured land were controlled by both sides, with each side having its own flag. The current version of the article makes it seem like the entire conflict was played out while there was only one government on the ground. That is NOT the case at hand. The current version of the article makes it seem like Gaddafi held 90% of Libya until the very end, which is also not true. The current version of the article would only be valid if there was some sort of coup at the very end of conflict where Gaddafi did hold onto all of Libya throughout the conflict, but again that is not the case. I actually like the compromise that user:Knowledgkid87 suggested, which is to have the two flags together to indicate that during the entire conflict there were two legitimate governments on the ground, each holding large part of the country with its own flag. Can we now have consensus? Moester101 ( talk) 00:26, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
I see no need for a change. The current presentation reflects that there was a civil war in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya that led to a revolution. That's accurate. Using the Libyan Republic tricolor is revisionism; using both flags or an OR split flag is sloppy. I don't think the table as it exists now is misleading in any way. - Kudzu1 ( talk) 09:52, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
I disagree with Kudzu1 that having both flags would look sloppy or else I wouldn't have proposed it in the first place. I also disagree with Myronberg on removing all flags from the infobox because that seems too extreme of a solution to such a relatively simple topic that we're trying to establish consensus on. My argument for the split flag remains the same, I am not going to restate all of my arguments here, but I will shortly summarize: only Gaddafi's flag was legitimate on events before the civil war, but during 90% of the civil war there were two legitimate governments on the ground with each one having its own flag. I am going to leave this discussion open for 2-3 more days to give a chance for other users to chip-in their opinion, and afterwards I will start a vote on the subject by starting a new topic on the talk page designed just for the voting on this issue. Till then, ciao. Moester101 ( talk) 20:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Personally I agree with what Kudzu1 says and splitting a flag is pathetically ugly and untidy as we don't do that in any other civil conflict infobox. But for those who wants to change the flag, why don't just remove the damn flag instead? That should satisfy everybody. This is what we do in every Arab article infobox Location section. Myronbeg ( talk) 06:54, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
We've been over this a number of times before. (In fact, I could swear I put in hidden text next to Libya's flag at one point explaining the issue, though it's not there now and I don't feel like searching through the history to find.) Using the old Libyan flag is no different than using the flag of Nazi Germany or Apartheid South Africa to discuss eras in which they were the legal, internationally-recognized governments of their countries. The NTC did not exist from the start of the events that lead to the overthrow of Qaddafi, and was not recognized by any country for several months. The Libyan Civil War started in the Qaddafiland Libya, and that's the flaq we should use. — Quintucket ( talk) 10:30, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Should Djibouti included as well in the map? I mean, if we have Sudan as part of the Arab Spring world, then so as Djibouti although they weren't majority Arabs. Besides, both were part of the Arab League so should we include Djibouti too? I use this link to check their map and apparently they do include Djibouti, but not Sudan.
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/world/arab-unrest/index.html
Myronbeg ( talk) 04:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
I have added in Djibouti but I won't add the UAE. UAE has no minor protests occur yet, for now. Myronbeg ( talk) 07:19, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Since the 2012 conflict in Lebanon are part of the Syrian uprising, therefore its null and void to put it here as another part of separate conflict. You are allow to either put at under the Lebanon section or the Syrian section, but you can never put this as another independent part of its civil conflict. Thanks. 60.49.63.145 ( talk) 09:39, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
This doesn't even make sense at all. If they are two different events then why don't you separate them to both 2011 Lebanese protests and 2011 Syrian uprising instead? Myronbeg ( talk) 13:58, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Good idea. If the Tuareg Rebellion was not in the 'summary of conflict by country then I would just remove the Lebanon one. Myronbeg ( talk) 03:59, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Fellow editors and users, it is now time to vote on the issue of the flag of Libya displayed on the infobox "Summary of conflicts by country" as I promised earlier. Many different points of view were presented during the debate on the issue in the section above (see section "Libya Flag") All of those POV's will be represented in this vote. Please understand that this section is ONLY for the vote, not to debate or argue about the subject which is what the previous section was for. I will keep the mechanism for the vote very simple, and it will be as follows:
Vote with "1" if you want the infobox to display the following:
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Libya
Vote with "2" if you want the infobox to display the following:
Libya
Vote with "3" if you want the infobox to display the following:
Libya
Please remember to place an asterik (*) before your vote and please sign your vote by placing four tildes (~) next to your choice. Unsigned votes will not count! Polling closes Friday 10 P.M. PST.
Moester101 (
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21:55, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Comment - I would just like to point you to WP:NOTDEMOCRACY. Basically, Wikipedia is not a democracy. Holding a poll is a good way to just relative consensus, but an up and down vote is not binding in any way and is not the way to figure out what changes should be made. Jeancey ( talk) 22:30, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
LMAO! Saying Wikipedia is not a democracy is like as if the Wikipedia site itself has sought to turn into a mini-political system. But let say if we make such a poll, and let say if there was a ratio of the voting like, say, 35-35-30, how can you even make such consensus to change the voted point into that 35% majority? This can hardly be called "consensus". Bottomline, as we have discussed this many times before (even I've once argued to put the new Libyan flag before I finally got convinced), the location of the Arab Spring all came from the locations before the revolution, and that's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya for Libya during 15 February 2011, not the Kingdom of Libya flag. Myronbeg ( talk) 03:00, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
I guess these are not the responses I was expecting. To be honest, the only reason I made this poll was because we couldn't find consensus on the issue from the previous section, but I guess this whole poll was pointless. Moester101 ( talk) 18:41, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
There was a major protests in West Bank calling for ouster of Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.
Myronbeg ( talk) 02:32, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Friend of mine send me this latest intel on Jordan, protesters calling for overthrow of King Abdullah II.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BkkTdEX8DA&feature=player_embedded
Myronbeg ( talk) 17:50, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
About this edit that I made: I removed the text because it was too chatty to be in the article, although I agree with whoever wrote it. Question: are we talking about the term "Arab Spring" per se, or are we talking about the term used to denote the 2011 event? Marc Lynch may have been the first to refer to the 2011 event as the "Arab Spring", but he can't possibly have "coined the term". A cursory Google News search turns up dozens of hits for "Arab Spring", years before Lynch's 2011 article (e.g. [7], [8]). Sadly, the source (The Arab Uprising: The Unfinished Revolutions of the New Middle East) isn't available on Google Books, so I can't check it. I think we should clarify this because it is a little confusing. Does anyone have access to Lynch's book? Braincricket ( talk) 21:38, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
The article " Arab Spring" is one of several which are reaching the template include-size error, plus at times exceeding the 60-second timeout to cause " wp:Wikimedia Foundation error" because { cite_news} or {cite_web} is too slow/large to be used over 350-400 times per page. Another over-size article is " 2011–2012 Egyptian revolution". Currently, new Template:Cite_quick can be used to reduce the size/speed problem, coded as {{cite quick |news|...}}. Now, other editors have come to support progress, and we can again begin to streamline those huge articles. Next year, when the Lua script cites are installed, then the {cite quick|news} usage can be edited to remove "quick|" and use the new, faster Lua-based {cite_news} which seems to run about as fast and small as {cite_quick}.
If there are no other concerns, then later tonight I can change the citations in the article to use {cite_quick} and reduce the edit-preview, or reformat, time of the entire page to within 30 seconds. - Wikid77 ( talk) 20:54, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
As I'm not quite sure how to fix it, I just thought I'd point out that at the top of the page there's a broken infobox that demands fixing. It appears the link is just incorrect but I'm not sure how to fix it. XphnX ( talk) 14:21, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Under the Arab_spring#Summary_of_conflicts_by_country, the Libyan's flag is still a solid green. The icon needs to change. Marasama ( talk) 16:53, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Hey there. We currently have new protests going on in Egypt against Mursi, what do we do with them? A second article, a second section on here... I would say that it has been too long to merge them into the "2011 Egyptian Revolution" article and perhaps should go under "2012 Egyptian Protests" or something. -- ERAGON ( talk) 10:08, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
There is a sentence "Amnesty International singled out Wikileaks' release of US diplomatic cables as a catalyst for the revolts.[54]" 54 source is "Iranian Sunni protesters killed in clashes with security forces". "Wikileaks" or "Amnesty International" are not even mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpov ( talk • contribs) 09:55, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Looks like thousands of Sunnis are protesting against Maliki. [10] Is this part of the Arab Spring? Should it be included in the article? -- FutureTrillionaire ( talk) 01:36, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello! the small Libyan flag in the article is wrong, the green one is the old one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.184.208.56 ( talk) 22:24, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Is the Arab Spring still really "ongoing"? Obviously, the situation in Syria is anything but resolved right now, and post-revolutionary Yemen, Egypt, Libya, and Tunisia are all experiencing growing pains of one sort of another. But is it really fair to say this "revolutionary wave" is "ongoing" when only Syria, where the situation has arguably morphed into something very substantially different than it was in 2011, remains in a state of uprising? - Kudzu1 ( talk) 11:03, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello, we currently have a "Overthrow" category in the map which is some sort of dark blue/black colored. But some protests which did not result in ousting or killing of the head of state still might be a success, especially in countries like Jordan, where the King wasn't directly targeted by protesters, but the government was - and was overthrown. I propose to change how this map presents the arab spring to introduce more emphasis on the result.
In those case where protests brought something, it can be the ousting of the head of state (which would stay dark blue), of the government (which I propose to be blue), or just the introduction of reforms in response to protests (which could use light blue). This latter is, for example, Morocco, Algeria, or Saudi Arabia.
Aside from those "victories", there is ongoing protests that became real conflicts, i.e. "civil war" (which would stay red) and "sustained civil disorder" (which would take orange), and there is protests that led to neither fall of head of state/government or reforms. For those, as Mauritania, Lebanon, or Sudan, I propose to use the name "Other protests" and that "sand" color.
Long story short, this is what I propose :
This might seem a big change for nothing really useful for you but it definitively helps the comprehension of the arab spring aftermath. Can I go on with his ? 93.22.224.239 ( talk) 18:24, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
We appreciate your new suggestion but the current ones is already satisfactory enough. And no, anonymous user. About Morocco, you were wrong. In 2011 after the parliamentary elections, the new Islamist prime minister Abdelilah Benkirane were taken position as the new Prime Minister. So it did changed. You can look at here. Also, I strongly disagree about how you label Algeria, Saudi Arabia as "reforms" because there weren't any reforms and this word is a vague where its definition is quite subjective to anybody. The current will stay. Myronbeg ( talk) 15:21, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Split - Article should be split due to size, starting with "Concurrent Incidents". Thoughts???-- Jax 0677 ( talk) 22:57, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm planning on writing a new article titled 'Women in the Arab Spring' as part of my Poverty, Gender and Human Development course at Rice University and I would appreciate any feedback on my planned changes. I'm interested in this subject because of its relevance to politics and women's rights. The Arab world has a reputation for treating women as second-class citizens, but they played an important role in the events of the Arab Spring. The role of women in the Arab Spring is not discussed in the Arab Spring article or anywhere else on Wikipedia.
The article will focus on women's roles and treatment of them during the protests, but will also look at the unique challenges facing women before the Arab Spring and the impact of governmental changes on their rights. I'm currently planning on writing the following sections: Before the Arab Spring, Role in uprising, Cyberactivism, Major figures, Attitudes towards female protestors, Post-change of government and In ongoing or stalled uprisings. These sections will be detailed and reference diverse sources including think tank and scholarly articles.
I would really appreciate any feedback, particularly regarding my planned organization and whether I'm missing any important aspects of the topic. Thanks! Nadhika99 ( talk) 06:24, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Reasoning and Timing: Honestly, your aims for this section do not appear to make much sense. Also, given all the background noise - around this highly debated issue - how likely are your comments to be heard? 86.190.61.225 ( talk) 15:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Palestine's Fayyad ultimately resigned during the protests (ref), but should we class this as a revolution? The protests seem to have been rather sparse in comparison to other nations. Perhaps "protests and governmental changes" would be more apropriate. -- ERAGON ( talk) 01:14, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
I would wish to reveal some truth to the world concerning numerous rising amounts of controversies concerning the Arab Spring in general. Is this possible to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALEXF971 ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you, I shall do my best to neutralize the points into an acceptable manner. I shall return to post the edits once I once again have the time later in the upcoming week, — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALEXF971 ( talk • contribs) 05:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
The first sentence could be phrased a little better in my opinion. Specifically this - "nonviolent and violent demonstrations, violent and nonviolent protests" - is fairly odd phrasing. Why does it refer to "nonviolent and violent" in the first point then reverse it and say "violent and nonviolent" in the second point? It also has to be said that while not 100% synonymous, the words "demonstration" and "protest" are so close to each other that I'm not sure it's worth mentioning the two concepts separately. Bandanamerchant ( talk) 12:56, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Is there any evidence that there have been protests in Kuwait in the last few months? And if so, are they related to the original Arab-Spring protests at all?-- eh bien mon prince ( talk) 00:20, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
-- Gary Dee 15:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
The refs at the end of the article are commented out and have been for months now. They are refs that were from the main article which was summarized here and these refs were not used. I'm going to remove them now and they serve no purpose and just clutter up the page. This is just notifying everyone as to why I am removing them. Jeancey ( talk) 20:09, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Israeli_social_justice_protests
at least these protests should be mentioned if not included as part of the 'spring' protests movements. reports of posters mirroring posters used in cairo etc. further see this: http://techpresident.com/news/22999/leader-israels-social-justice-protest-movement-enters-mainstream-politics
and
http://www.dw.de/man-sets-himself-alight-at-israeli-social-justice-protest/a-16098429
there were also some tweets related to this from amongst the main organizers 75.49.251.113 ( talk) 15:25, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
The Arab Spring refers to the revolutionary movements in the Arab world since late 2010, Israel is not part of the Arab world. That said, those protests could be described as part of the impact of the Arab Spring but not the Arab Spring itself. Charles Essie ( talk) 17:58, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
The article states: "the relative success of the democratic Republic of Turkey, with its substantially free and vigorously contested but peaceful elections, fast-growing but liberal economy, secular constitution but Islamist government, created a model (the Turkish model) if not a motivation for protestors in neighbouring states" but with current events unfolding now in Istanbal, we may have to add Turkey to the article as a participant-state in the Arab Spring, and thus not the shining model it was as hitherto presented. 173.206.8.71 ( talk) 08:07, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
The Arab Spring refers to the revolutionary movements in the Arab world since late 2010, Turkey is not part of the Arab world. That said, those protests could be described as part of the impact of the Arab Spring but not the Arab Spring itself. Charles Essie ( talk) 17:58, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi
in the article it has been written that 30 to 40 people were killed in Israel.
1st the source(Al Jazeera) is extremely pro-Arab and anti-Israeli.
Both Syria and Israel which are enemies said that no more than 23 people were killed.
2nd the article presents interior conflicts, not border-clashes.
so the row about Israel, is not relevant.
another issue is that the "State of Palestine" is under Israeli capture, and does not maintain full sovereignty.
So the political correctness and neutral term will be, "the Palestinian authority", or "Palestinian territories".
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00:38, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
In Egypt's section in the table, can someone split the situation column (the last one) in 2 rows? The 1st row in dark blue (no change) and the 2nd row in lighter blue like Bahrain's section with "Sustained civil disorder and government change" referring to the article Political violence in Egypt, 2013. I don't know how to do so so any help would be appreciated and thanks in advance. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 12:26, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
The template on top of the page which is calling for splits is still there, if we want more splits, I have some ideas for new pages:
Charles Essie ( talk) 16:50, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
There are protests in Sudan calling for fall of the regime after the government increased the fuel price. If anyone of you are interested in that topic, please do come at Sudanese protests (2011–present) and help edit it. Uploading photos and videos will be good. Thank you. Myronbeg ( talk) 07:48, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
It seems to me that the "motivations" section includes some info on causes. I think causes and motivations should be separate. The "motivations" would apply to why the motives of all these rebels/dissenters are doing what they're doing, while "causes" would cover why this is happening now and not 5 years ago or 5 years from now. Admittedly, the line between these two is blurry, however, I still think the distinction should be made.
There is also very little info on causes. I didn't see the argument that Iraq becoming a democracy or semi-democracy being a major cause, but I know many people say this (particularly conservatives). Ideally, I'd like to see an entire subsection with multiple paragraphs on that issue, because I find it very interesting.
I'm interested in any feedback/observations/ideas/concerns on this matter. Thanks. Byelf2007 ( talk) 19:42, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Missing Causes: Food Prices. I remember this was certainly a thing in Tunisia. When people are hungry they tend not to keep quiet. 66.78.121.14 ( talk) 15:49, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Color revolution & Arab Spring mirror each other . Arab Spring is Color revolution copy pasted with minor changes . The modus operandi is not only similar the initial results suited western powers . ..
Also National Endowment for Democracy seems to be involved in both Revolutions ( Carl Gershman)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.179.35.96 ( talk) 08:29, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
International Republican Institute which was involved with color revolution have taken credit in training activists ( NYTimes) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.179.35.96 ( talk) 08:34, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
conflict was waiting to hapopen.. >> Turkey's popularity dives in MENA region poll ( Lihaas ( talk) 11:25, 25 November 2013 (UTC)).