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Overall: The article is new enough, and has 1509 characters so just squeaks in on length, according to DYK check. Copyvio is fine (10% but based on the usage of the phrase itself). Sources appear to be reliable although I could not check the "Private theatrical" source as the clip image does not appear for some reason. The hook fact is sourced to a published book from 1749, where the phrase does indeed appear. Is there any source to confirm that this is the first known usage of the phrase, though? I see the Free Dictionary cites one source as saying John Cleland is first in 1749, but another source as saying that "it appears in an eighteenth-century play by James Cobb and in Fanny Hill (1759)" but doesn't give a date for Cobb's play.
I don't find the hook fact uninteresting, as I would have thought this phrase would be much older, but I would suggest that the context of the first usage of the phrase might make for a more interesting hook?
DrThneed (
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23:55, 31 August 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lightburst: Your article contains the statement "The first known publication of the phrase was in 1749" and the source for that sentence is the publication itself. What you need is a source that says "this was the first published use of the phrase", right? In terms of the hook, I was alluding to the fact this phrase is of a nautical origin but its first use is in erotica.
DrThneed (
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05:05, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the message. I am rather new in the dyk world so I may have to reach out for help or put my thinking cap on to come up with a new hook. I will also need to seek out a secondary source for the 1749 claim.
Lightburst (
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11:09, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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DrThneed: I added references which corroborate the first known publication. I also added elements of the new hook to the article i.e. nautical and erotic novel.I think your idea for the hook was a good one.