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I think some light copy-editing may still be needed in places and many of the red links still need to have articles created for them to expand on context, but other than that, I think this is definitely fit for a GA nomination.--
Grnrchst (
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08:27, 24 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I agree with
Grnrchst. It needs some copy-editing. From what I've read, I found some inconsistencies. In some parts, the name of the anarchist periodicals, unions and associations are translated, but in some other parts, they aren't (for example: Confederação Operária Brasileira and Brazilian Workers' Confederation). When the article talks about "cooperatives", in the most part it is making reference to "cooperativists" or reformist trade unionists. The introduction needs to be improved, too. It is also important to note that in portuguese we use the word "sindicalismo" to refer to trade unionism in a more general way. For
syndicalism, which is a specific type of trade unionism, we use the term "sindicalismo revolucionário". So if the original text in portuguese talks about "sindicalismo" without "revolucionário", it is making reference to trade unionism in a more general way. I also think the layout seems a bit confusing comparing to the Portuguese version.
El Descamisado (
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16:24, 24 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah thanks for this response
El Descamisado! Portuguese isn't too difficult for me to translate, but as I'm not quite fluent yet I can still mess up occasional words if I don't understand the context. For example, I made my way through almost the entire translation of this article before understanding that "categorias", in context, meant "
economic sectors". Would "reformists" be a better translation for "cooperativistas" then? Because I'm more familiar with the Spanish and Italian use of "cooperativista" to refer to someone that supports
worker cooperatives. Thanks for offering your thoughts! --
Grnrchst (
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14:15, 26 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes,
Grnrchst, I think "reformists" would be a better translation. "Cooperativista", in Portuguese, means the same thing as in Italian and Spanish, but as Batalha (2000) pointed in his "História do Movimento Operário na Primeira República", "reformist trade unionism" or "reformist trade unions" is a more correct way to refer to these labor activists that were in opposition to anarchism. Yes, they supported worker cooperatives, but not only that. They also supported legal means to obtain social rights and some of then were part of the early Brazilian socialist parties. I need to change that in the Portuguese article, too. But we need to pay attention to the context: in some parts, "cooperativista" does not mean "reformist". Here, for example: "O encontro também contou com a proposta de formação dentro da UARJ de uma iniciativa cooperativista, para atrair aderentes entre os operários". In that case, anarchists were proposing the creation of a worker cooperative.
El Descamisado (
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03:59, 27 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Santos Silva
Santos, Kauan Willian; Silva, Rafael Viana (eds.). História do anarquismo e do sindicalismo de intenção revolucionária no Brasil: novas perspectivas (in Portuguese).
Curitiba: Prismas.
ISBN9788555079528.
OCLC1333086354.
This reference appears to use different page ranges from those available in the
Academia.edu pre-publication PDF, so some extra work is needed to check whether the cited edition changed after publication, whether the chapter titles were added to the correct page ranges, and whether the page citations themselves are even correct. czar22:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)reply