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Did you know... that the extinct giant
thresher sharkAlopias palatasi is the only one of its kind to possess serrated teeth (pictured)?
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I think it would be better to say it's comparable in size to the great white shark, and in the body you should probably put the average size of the great white shark and (if you want) a picture of the great white considering they have a similar body outline User:Dunkleosteus77 |
push to talk17:07, 17 November 2019 (UTC)reply
"consists of deep root lobes that do not extend beyond the shoulders of the crown and a strongly arched base" so did the lobes go in an upward direction? Why would anything on the root surpass the crown? User:Dunkleosteus77 |
push to talk04:58, 17 November 2019 (UTC)reply
They only suggested similar body plans based on converging dentition. Do you think it would be too much of a stretch to suggest similar ecological roles?
Reading the study, it doesn't say anything about a symbiotic relationship, it just says "A. palatasi teeth are typically found comingled with the teeth of the giant otodontid Carcharocles chubutensis, a species well represented in the Burdigalian to Langhian and possibly into the Serravallian" User:Dunkleosteus77 |
push to talk04:58, 17 November 2019 (UTC)reply
When I wrote the article I thought that comingling would imply a symbiotic relationship. If that's an unreliable stretch, then cut.
We shouldn't really stretch information. It's okay to explain inferences the author made in greater detail s/he didn't go into, but only if it's clear that's the direction the author was going in. There doesn't seem to be indication that they thought the two sharks had a symbiotic relationship User:Dunkleosteus77 |
push to talk17:11, 17 November 2019 (UTC)reply
It's what was referred to by fossil collectors/amateurs along with Trigonotodus serratus, but it seems that nobody ever mentioned anything in scientific literature until Kent and Ward. Cut.
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... that unlike its congeneric relatives, the extinct giant
thresher sharkAlopias palatasi is hypothesized to have lacked elongated tails and instead looked more similar to the
great white shark? Source:
[1] "It is unlikely that the new giant thresher shark possessed an elongated dorsal tail lobe seen in the Recent species. As the dentition is converging on a great white shark and its size was similar or larger, it is reasonable to suppose that the body outline was similar."
ALT1:... that the extinct giant
thresher sharkAlopias palatasi is the only one of its kind to possess serrated teeth? Source:
[2] "Despite extensive research on fossil elasmobranchs in this area, one species of large thresher shark (family Alopiidae) with distinctively serrated teeth has not been previously named."
ALT2:... that despite the large attention given to it by the amateur collectors and dealers, discoveries of fossils from a new species of extinct giant
thresher shark now known as Alopias palatasi were ignored by scientific literature for over a decade until one was donated to a
paleontologist? Source
[3] "Curiously, these teeth were well known by amateur collectors and fossil dealers but had no mention in the scientific literature"
Article has been reviewed as a good article, so no problem there. Article was nominated within a week of being promoted to GA status. This seems to be the nominator's first DYK nomination so no past review on nominator's part per
WP:QPQ. Hooks are backed up by citations, long and interesting enough. Personally I favor the second hook as it seems to be the most concise, but I have no real problem with any of the three. Perhaps another editor could weigh in on that.
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19:09, 7 December 2019 (UTC)reply