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The first sentence in the lead does not add anything. I propose we remove it. "Israel's policies and actions in its ongoing occupation of the Palestinian territories have drawn accusations that it is committing the crime of apartheid."
The first paragraph would then become: "Leading Palestinian, Israeli and international human rights groups have said that the totality and severity of the human rights violations against the Palestinian population in the occupied territories, and by some in Israel proper, amount to the crime against humanity of apartheid. Israel and some of its Western allies have rejected the accusation, with the former often labeling the charge antisemitic." DMH223344 ( talk) 03:35, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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This edit simply ignores the fact that two separate sources with quotes supporting weaponization of antisemitism in the context of apartheid accusations were added in support of the statement made and that it is therefore entirely appropriate to wikilink that statement to Weaponization of antisemitism. The newly added refs were not reverted, if the reverting editor agrees with the refs then it is difficult to see what is wrong with the wikilink. Selfstudier ( talk) 16:19, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
"Israel and some of its Western allies have rejected the accusation, with Israel often labeling the charge antisemitic."? Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 17:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Should the lead include or remove the wikilink to
Weaponization of antisemitism in the line "Israel and some of its Western allies have rejected the accusation, with Israel often
labeling the charge antisemitic."
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Firefangledfeathers (
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13:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
"Israel and some of its Western allies have rejected the accusation, with Israel often labeling the charge antisemitic(in the lede, no wikilinking)
"X, Y and Z consider the accusations of antisemitism to be an example of weaponization of antisemitism(not in the lede, because the lede should summarise the article). Alaexis ¿question? 20:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
. I frankly do not understand such misplaced comments such as shoehorning, soapboxing, fringe in the given context, it is a perfectly valid wikilink for the given sentence (or for the suggested one or for any other consensus wording). Selfstudier ( talk) 11:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Attempts by Israel and some of its Western allies to dismiss accusations of apartheid as antisemitic have been denounced as a way of silencing legitimate criticism.
Israel and some of its Western allies have rejected the accusation, with Israel often labeling the charge antisemitic. Critics of Israel argue that this constitutes a weaponization of antisemitism.) There is no scenario whatsoever in which linking can properly be used to make factual claims aside from what is in the text. Crossroads -talk- 00:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
The link was first added on 7 April 2024 ( diff), followed by many back-and-forth reverts and the above discussion. Pinging editors involved in the editing or discussion: @ GLORIOUSEXISTENCE, ElLuzDelSur, Makeandtoss, Alaexis, Selfstudier, האופה, RolandR, Galamore, and Kashmiri. Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 14:03, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Gitz ( talk) ( contribs) 14:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Proponents of the concept generally posit that in the late 20th and early 21st centuries much of what is purported to be criticism of Israel is in fact tantamount to demonization, and that [...] such demonization represents an evolution in the appearance of antisemitic beliefs. Proponents argue that anti-Zionism and demonization of Israel, or double standards applied to its conduct [...] may be linked to antisemitism, or constitute disguised antisemitism, particularly when emanating simultaneously from the far-left, Islamism, and the far-right
with Israel often labeling the charge antisemitic, that link should point to the way Israel understands "antisemitism" (criticism of Israel = antisemitism), not to the way Israel's critics understand the charge of antisemitism (charging AI of antisemitism = weaponizing antisemitism). Gitz ( talk) ( contribs) 15:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Gitz ( talk) ( contribs) 15:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Attempts by Israel and some of its Western allies to dismiss accusations of apartheid as antisemitic have been denounced as a way of silencing legitimate criticism.
"I would be fine with proposals to explicitly state and attribute the weaponization claim. I'd prefer Crossroads' suggestion over Selfstudiers'. Both would necessitate being explicit in the body of the article about who the "critics" are."Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 15:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
"explicit in the body of the article"(emphasis added). Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 15:10, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
The additional sources provided below have not changed my view. kashmiri provides four opinion pieces, which lend some weight to the idea that this view should be mentioned in the body and perhaps summarized in the lead.Suggest you look at the sources actually in the article. Selfstudier ( talk) 14:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
This is not true. Israel currently has a law against miscegenation. It is illegal in Israel for a Jewish person to marry and Arab. Interreligious marriage within Israel is strictly forbidden by law. [1] TerraTorment ( talk) 00:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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in the last Paragraph, Israel was quoted "calling Palestinians "the modern heirs of the Nazis"." it is sourced from a JPost article where it is stated: "In speaking with reporters, Levy said, “History will judge South Africa for abetting the modern heirs of the Nazis. We assure South Africa’s leaders: history will judge you, and it will judge you without mercy.”"
A bit later in the article, Levy is quoted saying: "Levy said that Hamas had “a clear mission to murder as many Israelis as possible – as sadistically as possible. It was an act of genocide perpetrated with Nazi-like cruelty and Nazi-like efficiency, in the service of a Nazi-like ideology." I think it is from here appearent that when Levy refered to "the modern heirs of the Nazis", he meant Hamas, and not the Palestinians. I suggest this quote should therefore be removed Stone fridge ( talk) 18:04, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Are there any objections to this edit? [7] Makeandtoss ( talk) 12:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC)