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I suggest this topic might usefully be integrated into Western Sahara and this page mad a redirect to that new section? The UN and western Sahara#Baker Plan described there would then make better sense, and also be easier to maintain perhaps? Timpo ( talk) 11:01, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
This article must be deeply reformulated for multiple reasons, 1- it contains false informations, 2- it's a kind of Algerian propaganda 3- it'ignore the moroccan point of view 4- many major events are not mentioned
4.1/ Major event ignored in article = War of sands (1963) When morocco and Algeria gets their independence, the issue was not western sahara but territories of Bechar and Tindouf (called eastern sahara by morocco), which have been claimed by morocco for their moroccan history, and for ties between moroccan king and tribes from those regions, but were annexed by France to it's colony Algeria in 1903 & 1934. After France withdraw from territory in 1962, Algeria refused to restore those 2 territories to morocco, the war of sands began when Algeria attacked "ich" which is a moroccan post control near Oujda. The war finished after african union's mediation, the borders between the two countries returned to statut quo before the war.
Source : See page 129 of book "guerres et paix au Maroc" : reportages, 1950-1990 Par Attilio Gaudio
2/ Algeria has never backed Morocco to recover a land, in the conflict of Persil Island, all arabs countries supported morocco except Algeria.
3/ in 1975, Algeria supported the creation of an independent state in western sahara, not self determination of western sahara people. Algeria recongnized RASD in spite of that no referendum has taken place until now.
-- Yusuf ibn Tashfin ( talk) 14:10, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
><> Algerian Backing for Sahrawi Cause Sparks Spatv ( Lihaas ( talk) 19:19, 10 March 2014 (UTC)).
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Sayuuuto: can you: a) explain why it's relevant to this article and b) justify the addition of this baseless
WP:OR (In July 2024, France's stance on Western Sahara sparked tension between Algeria and Morocco.
).
M.Bitton (
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10:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
In July 2024, France's stance on Western Sahara sparked tension between Algeria and Moroccothis is WP:OR that you used to justify the inclusion of the unrelated content. It's also nonsensical given that the tension between Algeria and Morocco is not new and Algeria broke the diplomatic relations with Morocco as a result of it.
I think that since you are clearly biasedwhat does that make you? M.Bitton ( talk) 10:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
This article is not about Western Sahara.It is about the relations between Algeria and Morocco, and there is a section called 'Western Sahara' which a main topic that defines the relations between those two countries. If you're not Okay with this fact you should go and delete the whole section.
this is WP:OR that you used to justify the inclusion of the unrelated content.it is not WP:OR, it did spark tensions. the algerian foreign minister even said that france 'doesn't own anything' and morocco is a country that 'doesn't deserve' https://embmoscow.mfa.gov.dz/fr/news-and-press-releases/frances-recognition-of-alleged-moroccan-sovereignty-over-western-sahara-is-a-gift-from-someone-who-doesnt-own-to-someone-who-doesnt-deserve
what does that make you?I said that we should have the opinion of someone else based on your history of systematic deleting of anything morocco related. Sayuuuto ( talk) 11:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
biasedand now, you're doubling down on your aspersions. M.Bitton ( talk) 11:20, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I think that western sahara related topics should be here. So I wanted to add this :
"In July 2024, France's stance on Western Sahara sparked tension between Algeria and Morocco. On July 30, French President Emmanuel Macron officially announced to King Mohammed VI that France considers Western Sahara's future to be "within the framework of Moroccan sovereignty". Macron described Morocco's 2007 autonomy plan as "the only basis for achieving a political solution" [1] [2] [3] [4].
In response, Algeria immediately recalled its ambassador to France. Algeria's Foreign Ministry criticized France's position as supporting "the colonial fact in Western Sahara" and violating "international legality". This incident highlighted the ongoing sensitivity of the Western Sahara issue in North African relations and its impact on regional diplomacy
[5]
[6]."
I don't understand how this is unrelated to the topic?
Thank you Sayuuuto ( talk) 10:41, 1 August 2024 (UTC)