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Need writer‘s (or anyone who's familiar with this article) elaboration in the part of ===Religious views===
"Islamic schools of law (Madh'hab) have interpreted this as a strict prohibition of the consumption of all types of alcohol and declared it to be haraam ("forbidden"), although other uses may be permitted.[67]" I'm not sure I understand the wordings in bold type (especially other uses), can anybody help elaborate? Thanks. I'm now translating this article into Traditional Chinese.
ThomasYehYeh (
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11:21, 15 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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2A01:4C8:485:F263:8CBD:D27C:816B:65C0 I agree, this article seems very biased against alcohol and basically equates it to subjecting yourself to rat poison. why is the page for drunkenness the same page as alcohol poisoning?
The article currently reads "At very high blood alcohol concentrations, for example above 50 mM or 0.023%, the respiratory system becomes depressed". The percentage figure is clearly wrong - 0.023% is below the limit for driving in most jurisdictions, and even at 0.23%, although the subject will be drunk, medical intervention isn't usually required. These numbers need to be (a) accurate, and (b), more importantly, cited. There's currently one citation at the end of the paragraph which is not hyperlinked, and (presumably) is only about the percentage of deaths due to alcohol, not the level at which alcohol consumption becomes dangerous. We need a citation for this number, or it should be removed from the article.
Tevildo (
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19:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC)reply
I think I just pulled a random number out of the
Pharmacology of ethanol#Relationship between concentrations and effects table. Originally it was "As drinking increases, people become sleepy or fall into a stupor. After a very high level of consumption[vague], the respiratory system becomes depressed and the person will stop breathing."
Special:Diff/230484065 is where it came from, I don't see any sources. There is
[1] which mentions "slow or irregular breathing" as a "symptom after drinking a lot of alcohol", but it is not specific as to level.
There are too many overlapping tables and numbers, ideally we should just have one fully-sourced combined table, probably in
Short-term effects of alcohol, and some consistent sentence-length summary like "0.1% impairment, 0.5% death" used in every other article with a link to the full table.
Mathnerd314159 (
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20:19, 7 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes, the overall structure of our articles on the subject is not good, and is not helped by having this article (
Alcohol intoxication, which is mainly about the moral aspects of the subject) as the "default" target. I'd suggest, in the short term, that we use the figure of 0.3% from the
Virginia Tech website, which is the source for the figure in the
Short-term effects of alcohol page.
Tevildo (
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10:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)reply