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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Overall I'm closing this as premature. Before we have more RSes to go off of, these arguments are largely based on primary sources. We have extremely limited secondary sourcing here, which makes any further claims tenuous at best, and such arguments appear to not be very persuasive to the participants responding here. I'm leaving the door open for re-litigating this if/when we have more secondary sourcing. Normally this would be a relist, but as closers we are told to not relist a second time unless there is reason to believe a more full consensus could be easily established based on the current circumstances. I do not believe that is the case here. Cheers (
closed by non-admin page mover) —
Shibbolethink(
♔♕)17:07, 26 December 2021 (UTC)reply
The title of this article should be changed to "Alan Wake 2" as the Roman number is only stylised; same situation with Red Dead Redemption 2. Epic Games Store, IGN, GameSpot, Polygon, among others, refer the game as Alan Wake 2 rather than Alan Wake II.
Allistayrian (
talk) 10:22, 11 December 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE20:56, 19 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose at this point. It would be better to assess the state of this closer/shortly after the game's release to see if there is more standardization on the arabic or roman numerals. At this early stage , with little information out there, we should be giving weight to how it appears. But once we see development and review information, that will be a better judgement call. --
Masem (
t)
13:18, 14 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose; Agree with Masem. Plus it's technically correct, as with the two Metal Gear Solid V titles, which are often referred to using numbers rather than numerals but haven't been changed because of that. --
ProtoDrake (
talk)
16:20, 18 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose. The situation with an unreleased game is dynamic and unpredictable. Wait until after release, and meantime the redirect is fine.
Andrewa (
talk)
17:06, 18 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Support Literally all the marketing and articles about the game use the number. This seems like another "logo uses the Roman numeral for stylistic effect", like
Resident Evil 7: Biohazard. That makes me feel like the number should be the default unless confirmed otherwise.ZXCVBNM (
TALK)17:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)reply
As the game is unreleased, there will be no reviews as of yet, so the articles will be based on the marketing materials and they will all be
primary sources. There is some controversy over how relevant these are.
Andrewa (
talk)
04:47, 19 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I want to stress that so far, most of the secondary sources used Alan Wake 2 rather than II. That would mean that for now, Alan Wake 2 is the common name and should be moved there. I'd argue that after the game's release if RS starts to refer it as Alan Wake II, then we can move the article back to the current title.
OceanHok (
talk)
11:42, 19 December 2021 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 28 October 2023
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@
Masem: - But this has nothing to do with its common name. It is not its official title at all. Most of the secondary sources call it "Alan Wake 2"; Both developer
Remedy and publisher
Epic called it "Alan Wake 2"; The game's
" own FAQ and
press materials also called it "Alan Wake 2". I don't see how this is different from cases like Red Dead Redemption 2 and Hitman 3, which uses roman numerals as part of its title stylization, but it is neither its official title nor its common name.
OceanHok (
talk)
18:54, 28 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Support as per OceanHok. If we end up doing this, then Alan Wake II could maybe be repurposed as a redirect should people actually still type it this way. Nicole. Oh, she's
elegantlyclandestine...✨15:05, 31 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per all of the above. As noted, not only do most articles refer to it as Alan Wake 2, but so do the official game, developer, and publisher sites. The roman numeral does seem to be a stylistic choice for the title graphic only. —Torchiesttalkedits00:50, 2 November 2023 (UTC)reply
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