The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Air Mata Iboe (Mother's Tears), reportedly finished during the
Japanese occupation of Indonesia, had newspaper reviews before then?
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"... the film starred Fifi Young, Rd Ismail, A. Sarosa, and Ali Yugo and followed a mother who raises her children attentively but is ultimately betrayed by her eldest sons." Should there be a dot after Rd in the name Rd Ismail? Also, " her eldest sons" is this a correct expression (I am not sure)? Eldest means the oldest one (singular), right?
"Sugiati (Fifi Young) is the mother of four grown children" All are male children (the reader does not know yet)? so, is it better to describe as sons and daughter?
"Air Mata Iboe was announced in June 1941 together with two other films, Boedi Terbenam (Hidden Character) and Bachtera Karam(Wrecked Ark)." By teh same production team? Otherwise, why is this important to know?
"...featured eleven keroncong (traditional music with Portuguese influences) songs written by music director R. Koesbini" You mean the music was composed by the director, or, the lyrics written?
"Air Mata Iboe premiered at Sampoerna Theater in Surabaya on 24 December 1941" But, in the preceding section, "Tan completed the film sometime between 1942 and 1945.However, advertisements and reviews had been published in Surabaya-based newspapers in December 1942." So, there is some discrepancy in date.
Oops, that second 1942 was a typo. There is some discrepancy in the sources, however. It appears that either Kristanto or Biran did not double check Tan's testimony with newspapers from the time (I think Tan was full of **** in this case, but no sources say that explicitly). In any case what we have here is testimony from one person, which is reported in several sources and is therefore worthy of inclusion, which goes against what contemporary newspapers reported. —
Crisco 1492 (
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23:31, 20 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Haha, that's really funny: the film premiering 1941 and director saying it was completed somewhere between 1942 and 1945.--
Dwaipayan (
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23:37, 20 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Tan was a different director (don't know why he would have worked on something for Majestic, as he did much of his work for
The Teng Chun's Java Industrial Film), but yeah that's interesting. Might be worth writing a paper about... —
Crisco 1492 (
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23:49, 20 May 2013 (UTC)reply
So, according to Tan, Njoo did not complete the film, but Tan himself did?--
Dwaipayan (
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"three sons (Achmad [Rd Ismail], Idris [S Poniman], Soemadi [Ali Sarosa])" I was a bit lost with all the brackets going on. Perhaps: "three sons: Achmad (Rd Ismail), Idris (S Poniman) and Soemadi (Ali Sarosa), and a daughter..." or "three sons—Achmad (Rd Ismail), Idris (S Poniman) and Soemadi (Ali Sarosa)—and a daughter..."
I am unable to purchase the offline sources cited, plus Soerabaijasch Handelsblad is a dead link, only the Filmindonesia one, so I'm taking it here if
Crisco 1492 or other editors with offline access can address this. This article has multiple citations cited at the same place (i.e "I betrayed my wife and married a cricket.[1][2]" They are:
"Production" paragraph 1
"Production" paragraph 2 sentence 1-2
"Production" paragraph 3 sentence 2 part 2
Apart from that, this featured article is slowly getting.... un-featured. I removed a "received positive reviews" claim in the lead since there's no talks on the film's reviews, almost all online sources are dead, and I removed a confusing "for the company" fragment from "...which also had a tragic ending, for the company." A lot of FAs in the early days of WP are also kinda troubled, so it would be great if this is managed. GeraldWL10:19, 22 December 2020 (UTC)reply
I don't recall multiple refs in the same place being an issue at FA, if both are used to cite specific information within the preceding sentence(s). The reference formatting has remained unchanged since
this article was first featured.
Crisco 1492, usually if appropriate and if not space-taking, it's common practice to relocate citations after the claim it specifically talked about. I'm just noting; this of course doesn't apply if it adds more vague bytes or is just impossible to be implemented. If I were you, I would bundle the references, which would statistically save more bytes. These are just, ofc, me throwing tips.
Thanks for addressing the issue. As I said above, a lot of old FAs are starting to rot in terms of links, perhaps even content, and there's gonna be a lot of work to do. Just reminds that
Wikipedia is far from over.