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Okay, what's the utility of the "Previous Season" and "Next Season" in the callout box? Because the seasons are only identified by number, there is no added benefit to noting that Season 7 is preceded by Season 6 and followed by Season 8! This convention only makes sense when Seasons or Episodes in a series are identified by name (eg. Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back) and the sequence isn't obvious. Let's deleted the numbers here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.30.188 ( talk) 23:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I am surprised that all of the delay is being attributed to the WGA strike. Undoubtedly, this effects production immensly, but so does the abscence of your main character. Kiefer Sutherland was in jail for 48 days serving a no contest to a DUI charge. I would attribute this to the delay more than the writer's strike. -- Ownage2214
This article seems to have alot of speculation in it so i am removing some stuff. If i broke any rules by doing, don't block me because I am new here. Just let me know thanks Sckay 03:28, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
edited above comment for legibility's sake.
I'm thinking Jon Cassar is joking about the Quebec terrorists; especially since just a bit above that someone else says the villain won't be a terrorist. - WarthogDemon 02:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I saw the mention from digital spy source (or whatever) that Gary Oldman has turned down the role of a villain for season 7. I thought I'd see for myself, so I followed the footnote (it's footnote #7). However, I do not have access to view it, and if I don't, others don't as well. Is there a way to make it so that everyone can view it, because if not, the footnote and the statement should be removed because it cannot be verified. Anakinjmt 19:15, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Various comments were unsigned, some were not indented, and some were stretching the page. I've fixed all of these issues. Please sign your comments by typing four tildes (as indicated at the top of the page). Also, this page is to discuss the Wikipedia article in general, but not the subject of the show. JamminBen 01:05, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
IMDb states that Alberta Watson will return as Erin Driscoll. I can't find any source for it, does anyone know if it's true or not? 83.86.73.158 13:43, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Dude, imdb has also said Edward Norton is Jack's brother, Teri and Chase will be back, and they have no idea what they are doing. Listen to NOTHING imdb says. Puppet125 21:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Since the premise is that he is on trial for his actions, would it not be possible these people are being credited for perhaps a "Previously on", or video clips in the show, either flashbacks or evidence? Popher 19:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Where in the citiation does it state that Morris is returning? SignorSimon 21:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
This article previously stated that Tony Almeida would act as the main antagonist this season. Is there any legitimacy to this claim, or is it a fan theory of some sort? 24.24.90.148 21:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
The Trailer for Season 7 has been shown in the UK this last few weeks and Tony Almeida is certainly 'on the other side' ... but as this is 24, you don't know if that is indeed the case, perhaps deep under cover, perhaps not. Tobias-UK 14:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
...and "interpretation" is considered original research by Wikipedia. It is best to get the interpretation from a reliable source and not from the clip itself. 147.70.244.134 ( talk) 23:37, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
according to 24s offical site day 7 is still starting in 2008 so why does thi sight say it is prosponed indefanely plese versfy 64.222.112.135 ( talk) 03:35, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Is any effort at all being made to keep this spoiler-free for people who don't want to know all the things that are SUPPOSED to surprise us? It's completely ridiculous that I come here to see when the season is airing, and BAM - very beginning of the article, I'm hit with two enormous spoilers. Please, PLEASE make an effort to keep this page spoiler-clean - spoilers belong somewhere specially marked, like the "plot" section, NOT the very beginning of the article. AdamSolomon ( talk) 00:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think (Deceased) should be by the characters that have died so far. Some people DVR episodes, and when a main character is killed it is a surprise. I'm not against putting this information in episode summaries though. Rockingbeat ( talk) 23:33, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I can't find anything indicating they are back, so unless someone shows something, they will be taken down. Puppet125 ( talk) 17:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
I searched through the ninth issue of the mag and can't see anything about Aaron anywhere. Does someone want to shed some light as to where it says this? SignorSimon ( talk) 19:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Why does there seem to be an edit war going on regarding Mary Lynn Rajskub's position in the cast list. Am I missing something? Does it really matter?! ChimpanzeeUK ( talk) 09:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone had her second initially, and I moved her down to third because I felt it was clear that Tony (Carlos Bernard) is going to be a much more prominent character in the coming season. I didn't think much of it at the time, just thought it was a small change, but then someone else switched it again. We went back and forth a few times. Whoever's doing it needs to get banned, imo. Characters should be in alphabetical order or in order of importance. Neither would have Chloe listed second. Mrmcpheezy ( talk) 19:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
You can't judge importance if the season has not aired yet. And she has been listed second for at least the last two seasons. Rhino131 ( talk) 00:07, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
It's fairly clear from the trailer that Tony will play a much larger role in the season than will Chloe. Mrmcpheezy ( talk) 18:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Seriously, Rhino. I edited initially not thinking it a big deal, but Rhino got all butthurt about it. 208.79.244.64 ( talk) 23:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
If it isn't broken, don't fix it. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 23:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
1) He's been in more episodes 2) The actor's name would appear first alphabetically using either first or last names 3) The character's name would appear first alphabetically by last name. The only logical argument, putting aside trying to estimate someone's importance to something that hasn't happened yet, is that Cloe would come first by alphabetical character first name - all other logical ways of looking at it support Tony coming first. And I support this making the lame edit list. CoW mAnX ( talk) 20:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
This is pathetic. However, Cow mAnX, I believe you are totally wrong as the points are irrelevant to casting. I believe when it airs Chloe's name will be first because:
But... the most important point is: who cares? really!!!! its pathetic the page has been blocked due to something so petty. Chocobogamer ( talk) 20:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Due to this very petty edit war, I've requested an administrator protect the article, which has been done. Please, please, resolve this dispute. I'm on hand to help out if needed. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 02:14, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Also listed the dispute here. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 02:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I'd be open to that idea. Anything that helps improve the article, go ahead and do it :D. For the record, I asked the article be protected, merely as it was a dispute I saw no end to without intervention, and I think the protection has shown what will happen if content disputes, no matter how petty, happen. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 04:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I hardly think the dispute wasn't resolved. It's rather lame, in my opinion, but I don't see what can be done about it. Steve Crossin (talk) 12:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I've fully protected the page for three days. Please discuss below this line. Thanks, PeterSymonds | talk 14:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I requested protection, as, well, I saw a petty edit war that needed discussion. And I'm sure that after the protection expires, it will continue. But, seriously, does it really matter of the order? And, how exactly can we determine someone's importance from a 2 minute YouTube video? Really, I think it should just be left how it is, is it really worth edit warring over? Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 16:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Mary Lynn Rajskub was credited third in season 5 and Carlos Bernard was fourth. Therefore, she should be credited higher in day 7 as well. Although I do think that Mary Lynn, Carlos and James Morrison will probably be credited as "Special Guest Stars" next time. But my original point stands (can't believe the page has been protected because of this). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loveem ( talk • contribs) 18:55, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
My question is, is it really worth edit warring over this? Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 19:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
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Season Seven is set in Washington D.C., about two years after Season Six. Day 7 opens with CTU dismantled and Jack Bauer ( Kiefer Sutherland) on trial concerning his past extralegal activities in the course of stopping a potential attack on a bus by terrorist Ibrahim Haddad (as was the case with several other counterterrorism measures by Bauer, it involved the use of torture). Bauer’s day on trial takes an unexpected turn when former colleague and confidant Tony Almeida ( Carlos Bernard) returns. Season Seven features the first (in the 24 universe) female President, Allison Taylor ( Cherry Jones), her husband Henry Taylor ( Colm Feore), and White House Chief of Staff Ethan Kanin ( Bob Gunton). A national security crisis prompts an investigation by a team of FBI agents including Agent Janis Gold ( Janeane Garofalo), Agent Renee Walker ( Annie Wersching), Agent Larry Moss ( Jeffrey Nordling), Agent Sean Hillinger ( Rhys Coiro) and security specialist Michael Latham ( John Billingsley). Although CTU is no longer a part of the series, Chloe O'Brian ( Mary Lynn Rajskub) and Bill Buchanan ( James Morrison) return. |
As the only source is the YouTube video, which can't be used as a source, I've removed the whole section. If you can incorporate this content into the article, sourcing other sites other than YouTube, go ahead, but for a TV show that hasn't even aired yet, I don't see why this section is there. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 01:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Clearly this season officially starts in November 2008, not in Jan 2009. Also, it appears deceptive to list the first episode as a "2 hour" length; as this is not likely to be the uninterrupted run length (the regular run length for each episode being 42 minutes, where Fox promotes them as being "hour long episodes) - compare to 1-hour long Doctor Who "Special" episodes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.9.142.125 ( talk) 09:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not convinced by the argument that the "2 hour" episode is not an official part of Series 7 (the reason given by the last editor changing "No. of episodes 25" to "No. of episodes 24 (and one two-hour prequel)"). It was announced in a Press Release solely about 24 Series 7, and besides "24 forty-two minute episodes plus one prequel episode" equals "25 total episodes". Here is the EXACT wording from FOX:
Fans have been waiting almost a year for the return of 24, television's most addictive drama. On Sunday, November 23 (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT), the wait will be over as FOX presents a special two-hour prequel event.
Regardless, when I search Wikipedia for "24 TV Movie" or "24 Prequel Episode" there is no such article. The place where this episode is mentioned is in this article. Therefore it's an encyclopaedic fact that the episode is part of Series 7. I'm also not convinced it will be a full two hour episode; Fox promoted the original series as being "24 one hour episodes"; but in reality produced 24 42 minute episodes formatted for advertising. -- 210.9.140.64 ( talk) 04:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
I've deleted most uses of the word "prequel" in the article referring to Redemption. It is not a prequel, by definition, no matter what the PR says. It was broadcast in chronological sequence: it occurs between Days 6 and 7; it was broadcast between Days 6 and 7, so it is NOT a "prequel". I've changed the infobox to "prologue", though a bit less trendy than "prequel", it's accurate. Barsoomian ( talk) 07:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Have any episodes filmed prior to the strike last year been reshot, so that the "plan for the whole season" which the producers refer to could have been put into place? If not then they only planned the last 16 episodes and not the whole season. Bogger ( talk) 12:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
'Season Seven, also known as Day 7, of the television series 24 was originally planned to premiere on January 13, 2008 but was delayed an entire year due to the 2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike. FOX will air a two-hour "prequel" TV movie titled 24: Redemption on November 23, 2008 that bridges the gap between seasons.'
1. The first sentence in this Wikipedia article describes an event related to the season and not the season itself. 2. The remainder of the first paragraph is used up discussing something that's apparently "not a part of season 7".
The first sentence and the first paragraph of an article should be describing what 24 Season 7 is, and not merely "related" events.
'Known details'
"Known Details"??? This is utter rubbish, fuelling speculation and rumours; and is entirely un-encyclopaedic.
Production:
'Producers were determined to reinvent the series after facing criticism over the sixth season.'
You can't know their state of mind, just report the facts, not conjecture as to how they came to their decision.
'Measures will be taken during filming and production of season 7 to save energy and reduce enough carbon emissions throughout the season to make the season finale "carbon neutral".'
So what? Why does that belong in this article?
'A number of ways that the production intends to save energy are listed on the site'
This is, again, inappropriate for a wikipedia page. It reads like an advertisement.
'Howard Gordon said that 24 cares about the issue of global warming and takes fighting climate change seriously. A number of ways that the production intends to save energy are listed on the site, some of which are: using a combination of petroleum diesel and biodiesel instead of regular diesel fuel, creating a series of PSAs with Kiefer Sutherland and other main cast members to educate the public on what they can do to help with the issue, and, when appropriate, applying the issue of global warming and reducing carbon emissions to the storylines.'
There is no evidence that the production of 24 will have a direct impact ofn Global Warming. Therefore it is inappropriate to describe "carbon neutral" in this way. Furthermore, Biofuels are a debatable subject, many people feel that unless the land used to create biofuel is barren in nature (ie unable to sustain general crop) then it is taking up land otherwise used by farming for food, or forest, or wood harvest, etc.
The entire article reads as a personal opinion with no regard whatsoever as to being neutral and accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.9.137.105 ( talk) 09:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
How is it "rubbish"? Wikipedia articles don't only contain in-universe information about a TV show, but every little piece of info about production, air-dates, etc. Otherwise, the article would be incomplete. If you want info pertaining to the plot, check the Plot section. -- Dann-Fonda ( talk) 01:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
In season 7, will Jack Bauer become an FBI agent? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Levis93 ( talk • contribs) 15:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
What's the deal with Alexander Trepkos? I keep seeing hints that he's going to be back in the last episode of season 7. Anyone done research on this? — Deckill er 01:05, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Is that the actual quote from Entertainment Weekly at the end of this article? The grammar is so bad it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
"Fresh characters like this is the way that the is only that..."
I have no idea what that is supposed to mean... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.114.156.28 ( talk) 23:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
they are too long compared to the rest of the articles of 24. They should just be summarized like on season 6 article. 82.131.77.12 ( talk) 13:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but this is getting longer and longer. Until this can be trimmed, it's gotta go. A few sentences on each episode should suffice, not 3 paragraphs. Brevity is essential. Steve Crossin Talk/ 24 00:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
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TVguide.com has summaries of the next two episodes. These can possibly be paraphrased for inclusion here-- 76.116.105.50 ( talk) 01:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
This is an encyclopedia, so continuity is required, that takes precedence over the TV show. Most feel that the date is a production error, and should be removed. Thats called Consensus. Also, the date isn't that important. Saying it took place however long after the previous season would be adequate. Best, Steve Crossin Talk/ Help us mediate! 13:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm lazy. Lets clear out all the TBD notes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_24_episodes#Season_7
-- 68.48.252.180 ( talk) 07:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
The Reception section had only one post in it with a short quote that told very little about anything other than making a joke about spoilers. This quote is useless and you cannot have an objective reception section that only has a single review. This was deleted and should stay that way until the section is improved with more sources and more useful quotes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.236.215 ( talk) 00:44, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
ma godhow can jack sufferthis much,cant he just die.eeeeeeeeeeh pliz kill the guy coz he has suffered alot.then why does tony haveto be a bad guy???????????.instead kill olivia talor off coz she is a traitor 411. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.108.254.83 ( talk) 14:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
"Jonas Hodges" redirects to the main article; can someone fix this? I haven't the energy. And there are other people to write articles for. OneWeirdDude ( talk) 04:22, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
This 24 Season 7 article is very different from the articles for the first six seasons. It doesn’t really address the Main Plot, Major Subplots, Plot Twists, etc. It is not really about the show at all from an entertainment standpoint, but is more of a description of how the Writers Guild's strike affected production, along with the political overtones of the show. Shouldn’t an article about one season out of seven conform at least a little to the same format used for the other six seasons? The production issues should be a subtopic further down the page - after the plot and sub-plot summaries. J-Mac ( talk) 07:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
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