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"Kunar and Khost airtrikes" is ambiguous. There were many US airstrikes and
drone strikes in Kunar Province and Khost Province, including Spera District. Also, the title does not include the word "Province".
Khestwol (
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10:59, 17 April 2022 (UTC)reply
One thing worth noting is that " Pakistani airstrikes in Afghanistan" is much more ambigous than what I have suggested, instead of Opposing the rename, you should suggest new names that are better. >>>
Extorc.
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Support "Pakistani airstrikes in Afghanistan" is vague. Which airstrikes and where precisely in Afghanistan? This isn't the first time that Pakistan carried out strikes into Afghan territory. The title needs to reflect accordingly. Mar4d (
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14:05, 17 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: Using "Eastern Afghanistan" here is technically incorrect. Khost Province (and Paktika Province for that matter) is part of South-Eastern Afghanistan, not Eastern Afghanistan, as per the
United Nations subregions of Afghanistan. However, Kunar Province is part of Eastern Afghanistan.
Khestwol (
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16:46, 18 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose I can't think of a better title. It can be changed to "2022 Pakistani airstrikes in Afghanistan" only if there is another airstrike from this year otherwise we need to retain the mention of country names on title.
CharlesWain (
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16:41, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose This is the major notable incident which shows that Pakistan did airstrike on Afghanistan. The title should not be changed, but it can be updated to "2022 Pakistani airstrikes in Afghanistan", which makes it more specific, and counters the argument that title is vague.
Jhy.rjwk (
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04:45, 20 April 2022 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Removal of all sources originating from India by one user
I noticed that
user:AlphaTangoIndia is removing multiple sources from this article. Recent examples
[3],
[4]. He seems to be preferring only pro-Pakistan and pro-Taliban sources. For
WP:NPOV, I think this is inappropriate, and they should not specifically try to remove all sources published from India.
Khestwol (
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09:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Do you say TOLOnews is more reliable than Asian News International? In my opinion, both of these sources should have been there and given equal weight. But may be an expert can answer better on this.
Khestwol (
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12:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
No, I am not saying that TOLONews is more reliable than Asian News International (ANI). I am saying that ANI is treated as unreliable source as per the consensus on
Perennial Sources page. Besides, if there is a reliable source out there that cover same topic as ANI, so then why is there a need to include a source that is considered unreliable here? This event has gotten a lot of coverage now and there is good amount of international media covering it. There is no shortage of sources related to the topic.
AlphaTangoIndia (
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17:12, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Since there is no official statement by Pakistan Government regarding the Airstrikes to be Retaliation to the wave of terrorist attacks on it's Border forces, why not just write it as "alleged retaliatory strikes" since some indian news outlet also term them as retaliation.Also it's pretty obvious too.
P.S- While reading the article, one gets the feeling that Pakistan is that bad guy who kills Children and women, there are chances that they could be families of TTP insurgents so kindly do look up to this.
Pr0pulsion 123 (
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21:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Hi
Pr0pulsion 123. Yes some sources say that, but the problem is that the more
WP:RELIABLE sources (according to Wikipedia), e.g. Reuters, Al Jazeera, Voice of America, The New York Times, DW, France 24, Bloomberg, etc. do not directly say that. The New York Times for example says: The airstrikes on Saturday appear to have been carried out as retaliation to that attack. but it uses the word "appear". So in my opinion, we can not directly say this in the first line of the lede. Especially since we have already added this opinion later in the lede: According to the Pakistani media and some Afghan media outlets, the attacks targeted militants belonging to Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) in retaliation to a terror attack on a Pakistani military convoy in North Waziristan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan on 14 April, which had killed seven Pakistani soldiers. And we have cited the source you have given us already. However, in my opinion, we can change the wording of this sentence slightly. We may remove the phrase According to the Pakistani media and some Afghan media outlets and add the word "appear" as per the New York Times.
Khestwol (
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21:59, 27 April 2022 (UTC)reply