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"The release of photographs of a drone that crashed in the Lebanese capital Beirut early Sunday morning cast doubt on the claim by the Hezbollah terror group that the craft belonged to the Israeli military, with some Israeli analysts speculating that the unmanned aerial vehicle was in fact an Iranian model."
Those Israeli sources seem to have written the analyst early on, before the purpose of the attack, damage and Hezbollah response were announced. After their cover was blown Israeli media shifted towards accepting responsibility.
[3] Even if the analyst you have given are true, Israel
struck a second site in Lebanon the next day.(second time since 2006 counting this one) Therefore it makes this one more likely to be done by Israel.
Bill497 (
talk)
16:15, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
The meida cannot accept responsibility as it not a government but even you source write that "If Israel was behind this attack..." as it have no knowledge who behind it . --
Shrike (
talk)
16:32, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
That Israeli media article seems important too. Not all Israeli media point their fingers at Iran at all. I will fix that. Also, Shrike your edits are personal Research since Israel have declined to comment on the event. No formal accusation on Iran made.
Mr.User200 (
talk)
16:36, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
No where in source it says that "Israeli media" said something.Currently the article give one sided pro Lebanese POV. Please return the POV tag the problem was solved yet--
Shrike (
talk)
17:45, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Future of the article.
I really dont know what going on, in the heads of some people regarding this article. Be patient lets wait until more information comes out, to make changes.
Mr.User200 (
talk)
18:43, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
I can't read your mind, either. Which people, what information, what changes? In general, articles should always only have verifiable content, in the future and the past, you're presumably right about that.
InedibleHulk(talk)22:55, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
DEBKAfile as source?
Is DEBKAfile a reliable source? Really? The articles seem contradictory and speculative to me. Is it likely that a Harpy could be brought down by a kid with a rock? A photograph elsewhere clearly shows a four-propeller drone, clearly not a Harpy, and I don't find it likely that it would have the range to fly from Israel. The whole story is just a mess, with no plausible information or corroborating evidence from anyone.
Folks as far as I can see, Israel has not accepted that it did. Israel Media are alleging Iran did it. Whatever may be the case, we cannot say this in Wikipedia's voice. Accordingly I have added alleged in the infobox. Proper attributions need to be given for any statement alleging that Israel or Iran did it. Nothing should be added in wikipedia's voice here. --DBigXrayᗙ05:56, 27 August 2019 (UTC)reply
If "Israel Media" here means what "Some Israeli media" means in the Incident section, that's just Ron Ben-Yishai from the lead, and he's only alleging the drones were made in Iran. If making weapons for the international criminal market were a crime, profiteers wouldn't profit, and the children of mighty industrial nations would have to go back to subsisting on agriculture and mining by candlelight on horseback. Maybe that's a bit false, but the underlying point is not.
InedibleHulk(talk)01:41, 28 August 2019 (UTC)reply
There are a lot of contradictory reports (Harpy vs pic of quadcopter, launched from Israel, launced from Israeli gunboats, Iranian, etc etc. None of this is particularly credible, IMO.
Ketil (
talk)
19:26, 1 September 2019 (UTC)reply
"3 people injured"
That's behind a paywall now (previously it was sourced to some private tweet
[5] saying the info came from "Hezbollah", corroborated by an anonymous at hezbollah.liveuamap.com
[6]), and I didn't touch
that source nor am I able to verify it. Reuters clearly says there was only material damage
[7], while AP News
[8] (explicitly with reporters at the scene) and Al Jazeera
[9] only mention material damage . This source claims 3 people injured
[10]. It doesn't even matter who
Prensa Latina is, I think I understand why they and the
Financial Times seem to agree on this. At least
Fidel Castro understands that
information wants to be free and
cites its sources, but "an anonymous inside Hezbollah" still doen't convince me.
Haaretz blames the info on Lebanon's
National News Agency[11], but among the many articles discussing the attack, I can't find any that mentions injured people. This is the official statement of the
Lebanese Army to NNA:
[12]. No mention of injuries. the nearest I come to a reliable source is this:
3 injured by falling disco ball at Beirut nightclub.
Wakari07 (
talk)
21:19, 27 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Anonymous sources from any purported organization are equally anonymous for roughly the same two reasons: fear of responsibility and reprisal or utter nonexistence. When contradicted by certain witnesses or official account, nobody always loses a reliability contest. But anybody you already know is real would lose a game of hide and seek to "them", so there are no overall winners here.
InedibleHulk(talk)01:58, 28 August 2019 (UTC)reply