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§ Other species:

As expected, monkeys and great ape species such as orangutans can also be infected with the COVID‑19 virus. [1]

Providing reliable sources

As written, this either excludes lesser apes or else includes great apes twice over (cf the opening paragraph of monkey), which is odd either way. What the ref actually says is

The findings on ferrets, orangutans, and monkeys showed a higher affinity of ACE2 with the RBD domain of SARS-CoV-2 S protein [1].

That citation in turn says the following:

2019-nCoV RBD likely recognizes ACE2 from pigs, ferrets, cats, orangutans, monkeys, and humans with similar efficiencies, because these ACE2 molecules are identical or similar in the critical virus-binding residues.

[...]

Pigs, ferrets, cats, and nonhuman primates contain largely favorable 2019-nCoV-contacting residues in their ACE2 and hence may serve as animal models or intermediate hosts for 2019-nCoV.

However, the previous paragraph of § Other species disagrees about pigs in particular:

The virus does not appear to be able to infect pigs, ducks, or chickens at all. [2]

Again ref plus secondary citation:

However, Shi et al. reported that ferrets and cats were highly susceptible to SARS-CoV-2, while dogs had a low susceptibility and livestock including pigs, chickens, and ducks were not susceptible to the virus, under experimental conditions [2].

->

Dogs appeared not to support viral replication well and had low susceptibility to the virus, and pigs, chickens, and ducks were not susceptible to SARS-CoV-2.
[...]
We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and ducks, but ferrets and cats are permissive to infection.
[...]
We also investigated the susceptibility of pigs, chickens, and ducks to SARS-CoV-2 by using the same strategy as that used to assess dogs. However, viral RNA was not detected in any swabs collected from these virus-inoculated animals or from naïve contact animals (Table 1). In addition, all of these animals were seronegative for SARS-CoV-2 when tested by ELISA with sera collected on day 14 p.i. (Table 1). These results indicate that pigs, chickens, and ducks are not susceptible to SARS-CoV-2.
In summary, we found that ferrets and cats are highly susceptible to SARS-CoV-2; dogs have low susceptibility; and pigs, chickens, and ducks are not susceptible to the virus.

Generally, translating some of the refs' protein-level results into organism-level claims like "can be infected" seems suspect.

Mentioning the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format

Maybe put an OR tag on the section?

Specifically, suggest changing

As expected, monkeys and great ape species such as orangutans can also be infected with the COVID‑19 virus.

to

Orangutans and other primates may also be vulnerable to COVID‑19 infection.

at minimum.

- 2A02:560:59A1:EF00:BD31:F556:FA77:6F84 ( talk) 16:13, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 ( talk) 15:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Added subheadings to the OP to clarify where it's suggesting changes and where it's discussing sources. - 2A02:560:59A1:EF00:BD31:F556:FA77:6F84 ( talk) 16:13, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference Tazerji-2020 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference Kampf-2020 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
 Not done: Per above. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 03:02, 2 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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This medical school textbook sells for about US$100, so using TWL can save you a lot of money. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 20:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC) reply

The redirect Talk:COVID-19/Current consensus has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 13 § Talk:COVID-19/Current consensus until a consensus is reached. Wow ( talk) 23:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Antihistamines ... prevention and treatment of Covid

Suggested edit ...

Antihistamines ... prevention and treatment of Covid

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10129342/

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/cardiovascular-medicine/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2023.1202696/full

https://ufhealth.org/news/2020/existing-antihistamine-drugs-show-effectiveness-against-covid-19-virus-cell-testing

https://www.mycovidteam.com/resources/antihistamines-for-covid-19-can-benadryl-zyrtec-etc-help-with-symptoms 98.46.116.219 ( talk) 14:09, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Not done for now
  1. None of those sources establish that antihistamines prevent COVID-19. There are statements like we believe that antihistamines may have played a role as a preventive drug for COVID-19 which should be studied & Clinical trials will be necessary to establish the drugs’ effectiveness in prevention, early treatment and as a secondary therapy for severe COVID-19.
  2. The first three sources are primary sources. Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine)#Avoid primary sources states Per the Wikipedia policies of neutral point of view, no original research, and verifiability, articles need to be based on reliable, independent, published secondary or tertiary sources. [...] Primary sources should NOT normally be used as a basis for biomedical content.
  3. The mycovidteam.com does support using antihistamines for treating COVID-19 and is a tertiary source. However, the criteria for Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine)#Definitions specifies:
    • A secondary source summarizes one or more primary or secondary sources to provide an overview of current understanding of the topic, to make recommendations, or to combine results of several studies. Examples include literature reviews or systematic reviews found in medical journals, specialist academic or professional books, and medical guidelines or position statements published by major health organizations.
    • A tertiary source summarizes a range of secondary sources. Undergraduate- or graduate-level textbooks, edited scientific books, lay scientific books, and encyclopedias are tertiary sources.
Thus, none of the sources that you posted qualify for this article. If you do find a source that supports these criteria, please feel free to circle back & post it. Peaceray ( talk) 17:29, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Secondary sources ...
"should be approved for emergency use towards Covid‐19 management at the moment"
Covid‐19 Histamine theory: Why antihistamines should be incorporated as the basic component in Covid‐19 management?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9903129
"Antihistamines have also been shown in small studies to reduce some Long COVID symptoms, including fatigue, brain fog, and an inability to exercise"
https://time.com/6263356/long-covid-treatment-prevention/
https://www.prevention.com/health/a39122406/anthihistamines-long-covid-symptoms/
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220214/Antihistamines-may-offer-hope-for-long-COVID-patients.aspx
https://www.livescience.com/antihistamines-to-treat-long-covid-pasc 98.46.117.90 ( talk) 16:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Mink

I request changing "strict quarantines and a mink euthanasia campaign" to " strict quarantines and the slaughter of all the country's mink"-- 94.189.43.2 ( talk) 08:26, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply

 Done Peaceray ( talk) 15:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Fatigue

what is its 41.216.201.40 ( talk) 15:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Check out fatigue. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath ( talk) 17:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

The relationship between community stigma towards Covid-19 patients

COVID-19 survivors are a vulnerable group at high risk when returning to their communities. Therefore, creating a safe environment and providing respectful care, including addressing complex stigma factors, is vital for developing appropriate interventions.[ https://scholar.unair.ac.id/en/publications/does-digital-financial-inclusion-forecast-sustainable-economic-gr FIn4nwatin ( talk) 07:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

While I generally agree with the majority of this you would need some research to back up your claims. The link you provided does not. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath ( talk) 17:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply