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How is a user expected to edit match related info if the templates are semi-protected? I can't find any ways to do any sort of editing. Any suggestion on the same will be much appreciated.
I think the idea is that there will be unnecessary edits if it's free for all. There are enough autoconfirmed users who will take care of the editing. PS: you might consider appending your message with ~~~~ to sign it. –
sudhanva (
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06:03, 21 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Coordinator and Vice-Coordinator
We need a Coordinator and Vice-Coordinator for this Wiki Project IPL. Anyone interested please put your name up here. Will wait for the reply from interested co-editors.
Cricket246 (
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09:22, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Why are these being used for each and every match on this years' edition of the IPL? Seeing as the main article is protected from editing to prevent IP disruption, doesn't that make the templates redundant, as they are not protected? LugnutsFire Walk with Me13:00, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Agreed. I don't really see the need to detail every single match. It's only a domestic T20 competition, not the World Cup or Champions Trophy. Also, they shouldn't really use an icon to indicate which team is playing at home. –
PeeJay08:56, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
I'm sorry, but I don't think this is necessary. To be honest, I don't find it useful to add a summary of every single result to this page. It's just too much information. This competition is played every year and only takes place in one country, so why does it need to be covered in such detail? –
PeeJay14:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
I agree the match summaries carry too much information for this page, but you can't have a cricket tournament article without having a summary for each match of the tournament. I guess making the summaries collapsible would keep the article length in check.
Dee0314:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
I see that you are removing match summaries from all the IPL season articles without consensus/discussion. That is mass-removal of content purely because of
WP:IDONTLIKEIT. I suggest you stop and revert those edits before someone reports you for disruption.
Dee0314:34, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
And no, making the tables collapsible would not be a suitable solution since
MOS:COLLAPSE says you shouldn't put content in collapsible boxes if that content isn't available somewhere else in the article. –
PeeJay14:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Just because something is used incorrectly somewhere else doesn't make it correct to use it here. That article is also in violation of
MOS:COLLAPSE and
WP:NOTSTATS. The cricket match templates were designed to be a summary of each match to be used in conjuction with a prose summary of each game. This is not appropriate use of those templates. –
PeeJay14:45, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
2003–04 Arsenal F.C. season is a featured article and uses collapsible match summaries. If you have a problem with the way cricket match templates are used across the site, raise your concern in the appropriate place instead of mass-removing content without ANY discussion whatsoever.
Dee0314:49, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm just following
WP:BOLD. The fact is, the info I removed was basically a wall of numbers. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a sports almanac, and that info is better suited to a site like Cricinfo. In 20 years, do you think someone will care which team won the toss in the game between Kings XI Punjab and Rajasthan Royals? I mean, I'm sure someone will, but not the average reader, who will probably bemoan the fact that they have to scroll past so much info to get to the important bit. –
PeeJay14:59, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Then I guess you'll go on blanking every tour page since they are all "wall[s] of numbers". Like I said before, please discuss your concerns in the right place, get consensus and then continue with your mass deletion of content. "to get to the important bit"? What is that bit I wonder.
Dee0315:05, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
"The important bit" varies from reader to reader. And no, I wouldn't delete that content from international tour articles since they're about international tours, not an annual domestic competition. –
PeeJay15:12, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Like it or not, this annual domestic competition is considered to be important enough globally to be included on
WP:ITNR and is more widely watched than the average international cricket tour.
Dee0315:16, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Even it is considered as globally important tournament, still it's too much content for one page and a violation of
WP:NOTSTATS, also individual match templates are not being used in global important tournaments, like World Cup or World T20.
42774 (
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04:20, 10 April 2018 (UTC)reply
I have also confused to see the use of newly created templates instead of editing the scorecards manually in this particular article. Though some of them mentioned that a particular edit in a Scorecard template would automatically cause changes to the 2018 Indian Premier League article, the new strategy seems to be rather unnecessary when thinking from my point of view. On the other hand these scorecard templates are not protected at all and the ironical thing is the article has been unnecessarily given semi-protection. I feel that the templates should be provided the semi-protection instead of the mainspace. This I feel is an alternate method and new approach followed by some group of Wikipedians as it is completely ironical to the traditional way of editing scorecards according to the general behaviour of our
WikiProject Cricket. But I also support this new strategy as it helps to avoid the workload.
Abishe (
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15:21, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Where was the discussion to go ahead and use those templates instead of containing the info in the main article? None of the other IPL seasons use those templates, and it's never been a problem with them. And if it has, they'd get page protection (as this does now) to reduce any bad edits. Being listed on WP:ITNR is neither here nor there. LugnutsFire Walk with Me16:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Support: It also causes too many edit daily. The purpose of using templates for matches was to minimize unnecessary edits. Statistics have lead to too many unnecessary edits
Shubham389 (
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11:05, 19 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Hi I would like to request for auto confirm user I have 481 edits and I understand if you do not except me. I want to edit the
League Stage of 2018 Indian Premier League
Not done:Vikas265, as the other editors have responded already, this is not the right page to request user rights. To do that, please go to
Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions. In my mind you should already have access to
being that you have 478 edits and a 5month old account. Perhaps create a new request in the Confirmed section asking why you do not have auto-confirmed if that is the case. Please click the link on previously to check if you do have permission to edit —
IVORKDiscuss01:44, 17 April 2018 (UTC)reply
I guess the only other explanation is that either
Dlohcierekim or
Primefac removed your "auto-confirmed" status as that appears to be the mark you stopped being able to edit. Hopefully they will respond here soon —
IVORKDiscuss01:51, 17 April 2018 (UTC)reply
This request appears to be for the fact you cannot edit the raw data as they are all transcluded from templates, click [show] on the box below then click any of the links below to edit the corresponding data sets
Vikas265, let me know if you have any further problems —
IVORKDiscuss02:01, 17 April 2018 (UTC)reply
I wanted to insert the scorecard of Delhi Daredevils batting (second innings) as 139/8 according to
ESPN Cricinfo as DD lost the match by 4 runs. This template hasn't been updated as it requires template editor request. Somebody update this template as quickly as possible. Thanks
I added squads templates; these can be retained here till next season then inserted there and removed here. I hope that meets with your approvals.
DadaNeem (
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15:15, 2 May 2018 (UTC)reply
There is no need to add those templates into this article. The squads are already covered in detail in
a separate article which is linked in this article. The purpose of squad templates is to facilitate navigation, and we only use them in the team page and the players' pages.
Dee0315:20, 2 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2018
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.
In recent updates, match templates are updated with border & colors, it doesn't look as standard , comparing with other cricket tournament pages.
Also as discussed earlier in page, templates are used to updates reflect across teams' season pages. Now, here match templates having alternate background colours, teams' season page looks weird now.
42774 (
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13:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)reply
@
42774: I agree. This was obviously done in good faith by
Mr.Mani Raj Paul, but like you said, it messes up the team season pages. Please revert the edits (I am a little busy today, else I would have done it myself).
Dee0315:33, 7 May 2018 (UTC)reply
In final of 2018,it was first time in the history of IPL that a player hit a century in 2nd innings of IPL final when Shane Watson made 117*
Sarthak2466 (
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09:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)reply