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The result was: rejected by
BlueMoonset (
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03:21, 8 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Article was far from expanded enough beyond the copied material to qualify for DYK, plus there are sourcing issues; closing as unsuccessful
– Well, the article is new enough (created on November 16, 2021) and is 5,869 characters long. There is over-linking in the hook.
Copyvio seems fine (ignoring the 90% violation, which is a website which copies Wikipedia) QPQ not required. But, the 'Background' section is entirely copied from
2021 United States Electoral College vote count. (1) It is done without attribution, see
Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia (2) Per
WP:DYKCRIT 1b, copied content does not count while calculating characters. So, the actual character count is 2,438 characters (verified by manually copy-pasting). The entire 'Background' section is uncited, and most of the 'Joint Session of Congress' section is also uncited. There are few prose issues, which would not be difficult to fix, but the sourcing issues is a major issues, certainly enough to prevent this from being approved. –
Kavyansh.Singh (
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17:13, 23 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Capisred,
Kavyansh.Singh, while material copied from a public domain source can simply be excluded from the prose character count, material copied from other Wikipedia articles falls under a different and more restrictive rule (
WP:DYKSG#A5): If some of the text in a nominated article was copied from another Wikipedia article, and the copied text is more than seven days old, then the copied text must be expanded fivefold as if the copied text had been a separate article. In this case, the Background section, which was copied from an existing article within Wikipedia more than seven days after the section was originally written, had 3,422 prose characters, so while that copied text can be counted, the article as a whole would need to be expanded to 17,100 prose characters, which is prohibitive, even excluding the templated sourcing issues.
BlueMoonset (
talk)
17:23, 29 November 2021 (UTC)reply
What about the veep electoral votes?
Shouldn't we point out who the five Democratic faithless electors & the one Republican faithless elector, voted for vice president?
GoodDay (
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07:17, 11 November 2023 (UTC)reply