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I beleave that every 2009 NFL teams season page be re-named to 2009-10 do to that the regular season runs to 2010 as well making chnages to items that link to the teams season page. If this action will be processed please give me a heads up.
-- Mr. Unknown ( talk) 21:27, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
The NFL has always gone one single year, ie 2009, not 2, 2009-2010. This is true for regular season and yes playoffs. This has always been set this way by the NFL. So instead of renaming the season, it's the playoff pages that need to be renamed. It's not 2008-2009 playoffs that the Steelers won. Super Bowl 43 = 2008 season, 2008 playoffs, 2008 NFL Championship. Mjhammerle123 ( talk) 10:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia is about FACT not opinion. It should go by what the NFL goes by. NFL goes one year in the name of the season and playoffs, not 2 years with a dash. It is the 2009 season. Upcoming playoffs is 2009 playoffs. Mjhammerle123 ( talk) 05:18, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
I wasn't trying to start an edit war. I haven't changed any site on this matter. I was just giving a statement on how the NFL views it. Mjhammerle123 ( talk) 16:51, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
There is an error in the following statement: "Ironically, the Rams cut ties with its last two remaining offensive players from the Greatest Show on Turf era during the offseason by releasing Orlando Pace and Torry Holt for both salary cap reasons as well as the team opting for a rebuilding mode after a 2-14 season in 2008 (second only to the Lions historic 0-16 season) and no trips to the postseason since the 2004 season" - this statement seems to imply that a 2-14 season by an NFL team would rank as the second worst in NFL history - not true, as several teams have gone 1-15 (Cowboys c.1989 and Panthers c.2001 are two I can recall from memory). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.77.142.112 ( talk) 17:49, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
The conference standings for both should also be listed. It is possible even after 1 week to do full tiebreakers for all 8 divisions and both conferences. The full standings should be listed. Mjhammerle123 ( talk) 15:36, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Not tracking NFL records broken this time around? KyuuA4 ( Talk:キュウ) 06:21, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
There is no need for the "Streak" column in the standings. It takes up valuable lateral space that could allow more of the team names to fit on just one line, but does not express information that is very appropriate for Wikipedia. MrArticleOne ( talk) 16:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
So anyone would remove "STK"?...... – Howard the Duck 13:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have entered this discussion earlier in the season. Anyway, I suggest you all wait until the season ends when the "normal" standings tables for the NFL season articles get put back on. What you see currently posted are the eight individual standings templates that are also used on the individual team season articles (e.g. Template:2009 AFC East standings is used on 2009 New England Patriots season, 2009 Miami Dolphins season, etc.) Looks like someone thought it would be best to replace the regular tables with these templates to "make life simpler for everyone" when they are updated each week during the season. [1] In any case, the "STK" column is one of those things under WP:RECENTISM that can be kept for now while the event (in our case, season) is in progress, but should be removed later after it all ends because it will be insignificant 10 years from now. Cheers. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 06:12, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I believe that New Orleans, now 10-0, can clinch the division title in Week 12 with a win against New England Monday night and an Atlanta loss to Tampa Bay on Sunday - the Saints would then have a 6-game lead with 5 to go. Do we wait until the NFL announces its playoff scenarios, or could it be added now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.35.86 ( talk) 21:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
on this topic i dont think its clinched as the second placed team can currently tie. same for the colts. —Preceding
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129.64.211.103 (
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16:35, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
There can be a 3 way tie for the NFC East title at 10-6. It's possible that this tie could go to strength of victory. They would be tied 2-2 on head to head, 4-2 division, 7-3 common games and 8-4 conference record. I would love to see this. Mjhammerle123 ( talk) 02:33, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Who keeps clinching via strength of victory? Clinching is about certainty, not likelihood. That one team leads another in point differential after 15 games does not imply they'll lead after 16 games. Tomblikebomb ( talk) 16:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I made 2 changes to San Diego's clinching scenarios in Week 15. One of the changes I made conflicts with what I found on NFL.com so I'm questioning whether I've correctly interpreted the situation. I welcome others' opinions either in support or contradiction of my changes.
The first change is due simply to Jacksonville's Thursday loss to Indianapolis. The original scenarios for the Chargers to clinch "a playoff spot" included 3 situations: (1) loss or tie by New England, Baltimore, and Miami; OR (2) loss or tie by New England, Baltimore, and New York; OR (3) loss or tie by any 3 of Miami, New York, Baltimore, and Jacksonville. Since Jacksonville did lose, that changed the 3rd one to loss or tie by any 2 of Miami, New York, and Baltimore. Since the 1st and 2nd both include loss or tie by 2 of these 3 teams, it no longer matters what New England does, so I took out those 2.
Here is the change I made that conflicts with NFL.com's official list (which I copied to make the original entries). The official list states San Diego will clinch a 1st round bye if they win or tie AND Denver ties AND New England loses or ties. I think there are 2 things wrong with this. 1st, if San Diego ties Cincinatti this week then loses their last 2 games they'll have a 10-5-1 record, while cincinatti could win their last 2 and finish 11-4-1, therefore leaving San Diego out of the top 2 seeds (Colts already have #1 clinched). 2nd, why is it just "Denver ties"? Why isn't "Denver loses" included? So, I changed what San Diego needs to clinch a 1st round bye to "they win AND Denver loses or ties AND New England loses or ties. LarryJeff ( talk) 19:32, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Ok - figured out that Ravens can make the play-offs next week as said in this edit. Based on the National Football League playoffs#Breaking ties - it's conference first, then common opponents. So Ravens win against Steelers - overall record is 9-6, conference 7-4. IF they lose there last game it's 9-7 and 7-5, so which teams can get to 9-7 with a better conference record. The Dolphins, Jets, Jaguars and Broncos. There are two spots, so they just need two of those to be lower. Next tiebreaker is common opponents - Dolphins would have this lower than Ravens if both got to 9-7, so if Jaguars and Jets lose then Ravens will be in the play-offs. 188.221.79.22 ( talk) 15:30, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the NFL Logo is not included in the infobox? ~ Richmond96 t • c 02:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
The first seed symbol (1) implies homefield advantage, which only the first seed has. Thus, the homefield advantage z will be superfluous as long as it indicates such. It separates the division winners into 2 categories numbering 1 and 3. A more useful z would be the far more advantageous bye week, which NFL.com now uses. They still indicate homefield advantage but use an * for it. Then again, they don't indicate seed, so their symbol is not redundant like Wikipedia's has been. So I'm changing z to bye week for the second and final time, and I hope whatever psycopath changed it back can defend himself here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomblikebomb ( talk • contribs) 16:24, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know how the common games tiebreaker works between teams from different divisions? Specifically, in the case where one of the tied teams has played the common opponent twice (i.e., a team in their division)--do both games against that common opponent count? For example, if New England wins their last 2 and San Diego loses their last 2, creating a 11-5 tie. They have 4 common opponents: Tennessee, Baltimore, Denver, and Miami. New England played Miami twice (split) and San Diego played Denver twice (also split). Do all the games count, giving the Patriots the common games tiebreaker (3-2 to 2-3)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LarryJeff ( talk • contribs) 22:02, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Potential tiebreakers between the Broncos and Jets depend on (1) they have the same result (win, loss, or tie) in Week 17 and (2) what that result is. The key is the Jets game vs the Bengals and how it will affect the common games tiebreaker. 1. Head to head does not apply. 2. Conference record is the same (currently both 6-5) 3. Common games; currently Denver has a 3-2 record to New York's 3-1. This will change in Week 17; with a tie or a win against Cincinnati the Jets would have a better record in common games. That is why I removed "Denver does not tie Kansas City" from the Jets clinching scenario. LarryJeff ( talk) 14:55, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Actually, one would think New York already has the edge (3-1 is a better percentage containing fewer losses than 3-2; even if it goes by wins and they tie, New York leads in strength of victory). My mistake for trusting NFL.com's Playoff Picture. I noticed the networks have Jets then Ravens too, so I guess the website's just wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomblikebomb ( talk • contribs) 14:59, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Can someone put a special mention of the Eagles vs Cowboys match will be played again in back to back weeks at the same stadium? 115.64.53.181 ( talk) 06:18, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm curious why this was changed. Doc Quintana ( talk) 17:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Can we start a table or something? There is no reason to have a sub-section that last a sentence or two for every topic.-- Levineps ( talk) 19:26, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Could someone please fix the |play-offs_start=
parameter of the infobox so it will dispaly properly? Thanks!
GoingBatty (
talk)
14:37, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
|playoffs_start=
, using the common American English spelling of "playoffs" without the hyphen. Apparently, one of the recent script-assisted edits today made several edits in violation of
WP:ENGVAR, blindly changing American English spelling and format conventions to British English ones. Please be careful when using any script. Cheers.
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