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Thanks for the sources. If they have information not already included in the article and if I have time, I will include it. You can always
be bold and do it yourself. The factual accuracy tag is for cases where one claims that there is material not cited to reliable sources or not actually reflected in the cited sources. Since that's not the case here, I'm removing it.
Jalapenos do exist (
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21:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)reply
I was bold and renamed this page from "2009 Temple Mount riots" to "2009 Temple Mount clashes". Question is if the article should be further renamed to "2009 al-Aqsa clashes" since that was how most media referred to the violence?
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16:36, 24 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Requested move 28 June 2022
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Oppose Most sources use Temple Mount and Haram Al-Sharif together or a general mix of one or the other. The Reuters source above explicitly says that police "did not go into al-Aqsa mosque" and calls the area Al-Aqsa Mosque Compound/Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif. The LA Times source, says that clashes were "outside Al-Aqsa Mosque", but calls the actual area of the clashes Temple Mount/Noble Sanctuary. The Guardian says "around Al-Aqsa Mosque", but refers to the actual site of the clashes as Temple Mount/Haram Al-Sharif. The CNN link posted above doesn't even use the term Al-Aqsa Mosque in relation to the clashes, Al-Arabiya isn't considered particularly reliable
here Al-Jazeera says the clashes were at "Haram al-Sharif, comprising al-Aqsa mosque and the Dome of the Rock, in Jerusalem." Other than Al-Arabiya, all sources use the term Temple Mount or Haram Al Sharif. It seems the justification for the move is based on the articles you provided including the word Al-Aqsa in their text, but they include Temple Mount as well.
The one (CNN) before it (now removed) is not about any clashes. "Police sources" (Israeli police) and Israeli sources generally only ever use Temple Mount, same problem as this article, relying on Israeli sources and no independent reliable sources.
Selfstudier (
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18:22, 29 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Fixed link, the CNN link is in fact about the clashes and riots, and does not attribute the term Temple Mount to the police.
Drsmoo (
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18:35, 29 June 2022 (UTC)reply
That CNN link "after calls were issued in Palestinian media to "come and protect the Mount." is quite ridiculous, Palestinian media would never say something like that. I see CNN's journalist there (and in the link I gave for that matter) jumping through hoops to try and avoid saying Al-Aqsa, lol. But the mosque IS the subject matter as most titles make clear.
Selfstudier (
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09:08, 30 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Most sources mention the dual naming (something like "known as the Temple Mount [to Jews] or the Haram al-Sharif" [to Muslims]), somewhere in their articles, that is a standard practice boiler plate with newsorgs, that is not the point, the headline/principal coverage itself is actually about the events surrounding the mosque ("facilitated the entry of settlers to the Aqsa mosque", "storming the mosque", "in and around the Al-Aqsa mosque", etc etc and why would it not be so, it is Palestinians/Muslims mainly using the facilities and Israeli forces policing them since it's occupied territory, clashes being the usual result.
Selfstudier (
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08:54, 30 June 2022 (UTC)reply
They mention “near Al-Aqsa mosque” as that is a landmark the clashes were near. They call the area of the clashes Temple Mount/Haram Al-Sharif. The links you’re posting affirm that. Essentially every link you’ve posted refers to the area of the clashes as the Temple Mount.
Drsmoo (
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09:53, 30 June 2022 (UTC)reply
I have provided quotes in my comment, if you have other quotes you would like to highlight from the same sources, free free to do so, mere assertion is insufficient.
Selfstudier (
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10:05, 30 June 2022 (UTC)reply
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