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Is there a reference for the "Pregame Line" information preceding each game? Also, I'm a little confused by the formatting. For the Southern Miss game, it says "Florida -20.5" which I take to mean Florida was favored by 20.5. However, for the Ohio State game it says "Florida +6.5", which I take to mean Florida was a 6.5 point underdog. I'm just curious why it's not listed as "Ohio State -6.5"? Presumably that would mean the same thing, but it would be clearer at a glance that Ohio State was favored.
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It seems to me that because the Gators finished #1 in both the AP and Coaches polls, the Gators should be called "Consensus National Champions". — Preceding
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19:15, 15 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Dicklyon and IP user 71.196.82.237, there are two points to discuss here: (1) capitalization of "champions", and (2) inclusion of the redundant "consensus national champions" banner in years where team won the BCS National Championship Game.
First, BCS National Championship Game and SEC Championship Game are trademarked proper names, should be capitalized per WP:COMMONNAME, and are capitalized Wikipedia articles titles; Consensus national champions, BCS national champions, SEC champions, and SEC Eastern Division champions are not proper nouns and should not be capitalized.
Second, since 1998, every CFB team that has won the BCS National Championship Game -- except LSU in 2003, which won the BCS when USC won the AP Poll national championship -- has also won both the Coaches Poll and AP Poll national championships, so including a "consensus national championship" banner is completely redundant to the "BCS national champions" banner in 12 of the 13 years of the BCS. In the 13th year (2003), there was no consensus national champion. As I'm sure you know, "consensus national champions" was short hand for teams that finished No. 1 in both the AP Poll and the Coaches Poll prior to the advent of the BCS.
These comments apply to all CFB teams that have won consensus national championships and/or BCS national championships (except LSU in 2003), not just the Florida Gators in 2006 and 2008. Thanks.
Dirtlawyer1 (
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22:49, 15 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Sounds good. I have done some case adjustments now and then, but have not always been clear on what's a proper name or trademark. Let me know if you see me get any wrong.
Dicklyon (
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22:58, 15 February 2015 (UTC)reply
"Needs to be fixed" is perhaps too strong. But certainly I agree we should support, and not impede, anyone that wants to work toward fixing it. Sometimes I get impeded when fixing thing per
MOS:CAPS, and that does get annoying.
Dicklyon (
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23:24, 15 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Dick, while there are occasional cases where we will part company on capitalization (e.g., Rose Bowl, etc.), I believe there are far more American sports capitalization issues where we can actively cooperate. If we can focus on that bigger set of cases where we're aligned, and great deal might be accomplished with minimal controversy. Many WikiProject members understand the English capitalization rules quite well, but find ourselves dealing with IP users and other non-project members who do not. This is a case in point.
Dirtlawyer1 (
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04:58, 16 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Ryan Williams - 1980 born? And on the 2006 Gators?
OK so an anon editor changed a few players to Ryan Williams... who supposedly was born in 1980. I have tried twice to cut the edits out as they appear spurious. But I can't. I have no idea why. I fear I don't care enough to make the edits by hand. An interested editor may want to check into these. The disambiguation page for Ryan Williams keeps being anon-edited to add the born-in-80 Williams... but pointing to the 1990-born Ryan Williams. Sorry I was unsuccessful in helping.
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22:17, 21 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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