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I guess the question is ... are double homicides committed by a pair of teenagers in a peaceful, rural New England, college town notable. I believe both Half and Susanne have several published works of their own. Especially Susanne appears to have been a prolific writer. (I will add materials to the article as time permits.) The article available from the CourtTV link has a lot more information from which we could base a more substantial article. Interestingly, another double homicide was committed in Hanover, NH in June of 1991. Such events, while they happen all the time world wide, do shake up a region that often can have the attitude 'Oh, but that cannot happen here ...' Keesiewonder talk 01:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I think it's noteworthy simply because it had so very much press at the time, it was in international story. Whether or not it SHOULD have been is in my opinion certainly a matter of debate, but it is beyond debate that it WAS an extensivly covered international news story. I speculate that the reason for that was because of the initial erroneous belief that neo Nazis were involved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.112.85.74 ( talk) 22:50, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
The biggest problem with this article is its name. It shouldn't be named after the victims, because that is a highly misleading and overly narrow scope for the article. It shouldn't just be a biographical article about these two people. The (copious) sources deal not only with the biographies of the victims, as background, but with their murders, the lengthy investigation, the many false leads, and the subsequent court cases. I've only skimmed many of the sources, but most of them appear to use the name the Dartmouth Murders. Uncle G 14:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
The story about the murderers visiting Andrew Patti's house in Vershire, Vermont and being scared away when Mr. Patti showed them his handgun is from a pro-gun magazine, the American Handgunner. It may be a made-up and/or distorted story. Are there other sources for this? Timothy Horrigan ( talk) 13:41, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I have read Judgement Ridge and the Andrew Patti story is well documented in that book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.112.85.74 ( talk) 22:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Furthermore, it was not a possible first murder attempt - Parker admitted that they tried to kill Patti as Patti himself described. They even dug holes in the back for Patti and his son, according to the book Judgement Ridge. It was without any question at all a first attempt. And they were scared away by the handgun which Patti deliberately showed them through his front door window when he began to suspect that something was amiss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.112.85.74 ( talk) 22:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Andrew Patti's story was used in John J. Donohue's Fordham Law Review article "Guns, Crime, and the Impact of State Right-To-Carry Laws" to counter John Lott's argument that defensive gun use can save lives. Donohue's argument was that the two lives (Patti and son) saved in Vershire with a gun cost the lives of the two professors Zanthrop in Etna (73 Fordham L. Rev. 623, Nov 2004). So sources include not only a pro-gun magazine, but an anti-gun crusader, both basicly relying on the killer's admission. I used to be amazed to find a source challenged on Wikipedia just by using the label "pro-gun". It seems to be SOP. -- Naaman Brown ( talk) 13:41, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
This article is lacking basic facts, although it appears to draw from books. It needs more material with cites from Reliable Sources, establishing when the youths were first interviewed (did either have lawyers present? it doesn't sound like it), when they were captured after leaving their family homes, when the plea bargains were negotiated, and when the sentencing hearings were held. Which police forces were involved? Which one made the arrest of the pair? Were they extradited to New Hampshire? What material did Tulloch's lawyer introduce about his mental state or problems? Was Tulloch 18 at the time of sentencing? the language in the article is confusing. He was a minor at the time of the crime. It is not clear if Tulloch's case has been heard yet (3/2017 - will have to search) by the court in the re-sentencing hearing required by US Supreme Court (2012) and NH Supreme Court decisions (2014), but it should be followed. Parkwells ( talk) 17:40, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
This material about "first planned murder" should not appear before content about the murders of the Zantop and prosecution. Do sources establish that the police and prosecutors had investigated it and knew about it prior to or during their investigation of Parker and Tulloch. As now written, it sounds like hearsay. Who documented that graves were dug, etc.? Did the police investigate? Which force? Needs to be substantiated. Parkwells ( talk) 17:40, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
The article says this: The same request had not been made of Parker because it was suggested by a detective whom they had phoned to get his version of the story. What on earth does this mean? Can someone clarify / reword it? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 03:19, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
It's unlikely that Mr Zantop earned a bachelor's degree from Freiburg University, as these types of degrees were AFAIK not offered at German universities before the late 1990s. Perhaps he had passed something like a "Vordiplom", an exam you take midway through your studies, which was then translated as a "bachelor's degree" in English-language publications about the case (?). Katherle ( talk) 00:14, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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I added to this article the very last sentence. It states: As of 2021, Tulloch's re-sentencing hearing is on hold.[1], Valley News, NH Supreme Court upholds resentencing for 2 given life in prison for murder as teens, April 20, 2021. I tried several times and -- for some reason -- I cannot get the Reference / Footnote to work correctly. Can someone please fix it? Thanks. 32.209.69.132 ( talk) 23:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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