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suggest "short-lived" is added to the lead after was aY
although, Mate Šalov's Četvrta Dalmatinska Splitska Brigada indicates that some of the Detachment must have survived, and it must have continued in some form, because in 1943 there was a Split Detachment. Something about its successors should be included, in the lead.Y
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline.
the non-English sources need trans_title, language and oclc or isbn fieldsY
2b.
reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
I have serious concerns about the reliability of
http://www.ratnakronikasplita.com/ This appears to have been published by the Association of Anti-Fascist Fighters and Anti-Fascists. The subject of the article means that this source is not independent of the subject, or even a third-party source. I cannot see how it can be used.Y
imdb is not a reliable source, but given it is only used to identify that a film exists, it just scrapes through.
File:Streljani borci Splitskog odreda, Ruduša 1941.jpg is drawn from the extensive znaci collection online, but there is no information about the reason the image is PD. The current licensing is not acceptable for Commons.Y removed
Assuming that the image can be appropriately licensed (NFA, removed)
7. Overall assessment.
I am placing this review on hold for seven days. There hasn't been much action on the points raised, and without some significant work to address the queries above, it won't pass GA. I really can't assess some criteria (such as neutrality and prose) until other points are addressed. Passing.
Comment
First of all, thank you for taking your time on reviewing the article and improving it earlier. Regarding the book "Antifašistički Split" published by the Association of Anti-Fascist Fighters and Anti-Fascists, the text I used in the article wasn't actually written by them. I used the info from the section
"Prvi splitski partizanski odred" which was actually compiled from two books that are listed at the bottom: Kovač, Vojnović, str. 367. – 372. and Sibe Kvesić, Dalmacija u NOB-i, str. 135–145. These are
U Spomen Revoluciji published by the Institute for the History of Workers Movement of Dalmatia (as I understand, the Institute is the forerunner of the present day Croatian Institute for History) published in 1976 and
Dalmacija u narodnooslobodilačoj borbi published in 1979 by the same Institute. I'm hoping that with this explanation we could keep them as a source, if not, I think I could come up with something else, although the info about them is really scarce, at least in the sources that I have at my disposal.
this is part of the problem with the article in general. It is a very small (company-sized) unit that existed for a very brief period. It is unlikely to meet
the WP general notability guideline without material from sources that are probably not reliable. When I clicked on the links, they took me to the website, so I assumed they were drawn from the website. If they are not, you need to provide more accurate url's. Regards,
Peacemaker67 (
crack... thump)
12:38, 23 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Regarding the image, I just used what I found already uploaded on Commons. I don't know from where did znaci.net compile their photogallery, but at the bottom of the page they made it clear that "Sve fotografije su u javnom vlasništvu, ukoliko nije drukčije naznačeno." meaning, "All photos are public domain unless noted otherwise."--
Saxum (
talk)
11:11, 23 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Sadly, Commons can't take their word for it. znaci has no credibility as a site, they provide no information about the information and images they upload, and some of what they upload is almost certainly a copyright violation. We need some information about the author or the first publication of the photographs. Without that information, the image will soon be deleted from Commons, and certainly can't be used here. Regards,
Peacemaker67 (
crack... thump)
12:38, 23 October 2014 (UTC)reply
I apologize for the delay, real life issues finally caught up with me. That and I got a bit curious about
Dubrovnik so I had to leave a few edits there before continuing with this one :-). I've removed to the image to prevent any copyright issues we might have in the future and I used specific sources (added Gizdić and Kovač & Vojnović) rather than just quoting the "Ratna kronika Splita". Hope this answres some of your remarks.--
Saxum (
talk)
13:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)reply
So, I've added "short-lived" in the lead section, Šalov's mentioning of a Split Detachment in 1943 and the required trans_title and oclc parameters. I've also expanded the Commemoration section with information about the destruction of the monuments dedicated to the Detachment, a movie filmed in the 1970s and the recent arguments over naming a street in Split after the detachment.--
Saxum (
talk)
16:11, 21 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Thank you for your thorough review. Your remarks as well as your copy-editing made a significant difference in the quality of the article!--
Saxum (
talk)
10:19, 22 November 2014 (UTC)reply