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Yes interesting thought, the official report has British Airways Sikorksy S-61.. but it was operated by British Airways Helicopters so you are correct we should really rename.
MilborneOne (
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18:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Seatbelts
I'm unclear what this sentence means: "Some of the passengers found inside still had their seatbelts on, indicating the lack of fore-warning of the crash." Surely they'd have their seat-belts on, with a crash imminent; more likely this is an indicator of how quickly the aircraft filled with water. I propose to change the sense, unless I'm getting this wrong somehow.
Scoop100 (
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17:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Dup, dab link, copyvio and link checks all showing up good, except for some paywall issues. (No action required)
Reference spot checks: Checked Ref #9, Ref #11 and Ref #21 and all accurately reflect use in the article.
Background
Might be worth noting this type of helicopter's safety record at the time, as well as the British Airways Helicopters safety record? Would add some helpful context.
Outsider to aviation accident GA nominations here, but perhaps it would be useful to indicate the average operational lifespan of an S-61?
"Oscar November was one of two flights scheduled to fly from Penzance to the Isles of Scilly" - departure and destination airfields would be helpful here in the prose, even though one is named in image.
The background section could also do with some minor explanation on the nature of the flight. Currently it only lists the provenance and the destination by nothing on why this flight occured. Then later two child survivors are mentioned but nothing about why they were being transported with the helicopter.
2A02:A03F:5017:BA00:2457:796F:5781:AFC6 (
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00:08, 7 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Investigation
Some switching between S-61 and S61 in this section on references.
"Initial speculation in the press..." - which media outlets?
"Lynda King Taylor, a reporter who flew over to the Isles of Scilly in the days after..." this sentence needs a bit more context. Did she fly in an S-61 as well? Was it a British Airways flight? Does help to have British Airways contest the allegations, but the implication with the current wording is that these were similar circumstances in the flight itself and it should be clear.
"The AIB investigation was carried out by D. A. Cooper. " - Any details on who that is? An AIB investigator?
Again here, I think a subsequent look at the safety record of the S-61 would be useful, if not to reinforce the pilot error cause in the accident.
Did the pilots continue to fly? Any word on what became of the passengers?
Any policy or business changes from British Airways?
Thanks for the review
Ed! I'm swamped at work at the moment, so am struggling to find time for this. I won't be offended if you feel the need to close it down, but I'm hoping to get to it in the next few days.
Harriastalk08:39, 5 February 2018 (UTC)reply
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Ed!: Sadly, I don't think I'm going to be able to give this any time in a hurry. I'll use your pointers to work on it when I'm around again, but for the moment I'm not going to be able to make the suggested improvements to reach the GA criteria I'm afraid.
Harriastalk22:01, 18 March 2018 (UTC)reply
"when the Boeing 234LR Chinook" - "When a Boeing ..."? The current wording implies that there was only one Boeing 234LR Chinook. (Unless, of course, 234LR is a callsign, in which case the is correct).
Sort of; you are cutting it off too early: "the Boeing 234LR Chinook helicopter G-BWFC" is the one helicopter in question. It's just the same as saying "the politician Bernie Sanders".
Harriastalk22:17, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Infobox - What does ... next to the injuries signify?
"and as they passed by Longships Lighthouse ... hey recorded visibility" - The subject is the helicopter. Either the crew or something along those lines needs to be inserted to become the subject, or a change to it is probably in order.
You talk about Hughes, the Labour MP, should the Labour Party be wikilinked to? Sort of like in the US referring to so-and-so, a
Republican congressman?
"involving Sikorsky S-61" - Is this quite right? My instincts say either making Sikorsky S-61 plural, or stating "the Sikorsky S-61". I might be wrong, though.
Would it be off-topic to state if the pilot, Lawlor, lost his pilot's license or not?
There's nothing verifiable that says one way or the other. He flies now, but I can't tell you for sure if he continued flying throughout, or had to stop and redo a course, or anything like that.
Harriastalk22:17, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Does the definition of ditching in the notes need a citation?
It is essentially just a convenience note; it is a non-controversial factual definition, I don't think a citation is necessary. I could add one easily enough if you disagree.
Harriastalk22:17, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply
The refs all look reliable, and the fair-use rationale on the retrieval picture is proper.
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Harrias: - All concerns satisfactorily addressed, passing for GA status. (I'm fine with the ditching definition being considered uncontroversial, a FA review might flag that, though).
Hog Farm (
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22:20, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply