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I am leaving out tamil sources for last (invariably they tend to be POV and full of hyperbole) - there are no neutrals in TN. either you are with them or against them ;-)))... Now i will run off and watch TV.. MUST STOP THINKING POLITICS... —Preceding
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Sodabottle (
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17:43, 14 November 2009 (UTC)reply
I am able to open the periyar.org link, but the india today link seems not to be working. The text of the article can be found here
[1]. I will check again in a few days and if it is not working still will remove the reference replace it with others. The same citation is in Annadurai article also. I have added a tamil source now
[2]—Preceding
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Sodabottle (
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04:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC)reply
the exact sequence of events which preceded and followed Anna's nomination. we could even discuss about the legality and the controversy associated with it.
i have added CNA cabinet. now collecting Bhatavatsalam cabinet. once done will cross ref with INC winners of 67 and see which minister survived.--
Sodabottle (
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07:54, 17 November 2009 (UTC)reply
the exact dates on election was held, votes counted and results announced would be a useful addition. i cant find it myself. --CarTick13:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)reply
Timeline
Polling staggered between 15-21 February ("Poll 15th to 21st February 1967. During this General Election" .."there was one day poll in all constituencies in Madras City, Chingleput, The Nilgiris and Kanyakumari districts, two days poll in South Arcot..")
[3]
Counting on 23 February
[4]. You have already cited this book
Annadurai meets governor on 2 March to stake claim
[5]
wait a minute. was that "can't access"?. in that case, you can piece the data together by using search phrases like "Poll 15th to 21st February 1967. During this General Election" in the books.google.com URL--
Sodabottle (
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15:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)reply
yes u r right. I can not access. I did the same search as u suggested, but I cant access any of the hits which came up. do u have any special privileges. --CarTick15:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)reply
no special privileges. I just gleam disjointed phrases from the search hits, stitch them together to get the whole page. It takes twenty or thirty guess searches to assemble a paragraph. I have got a lot of practice in doing this for my pet researches. Thus Pages 146-152 of the particular book can be "gleamed" to reveal the following
* Madras - 15 February
* Nilgiris, Dharapuram, Krishnagiri - 18 February
* Periyakulam, Dindigul, Madurai - 21 February
guess i understood what you mean. sounds like a brilliant idea. but we dont know how many districts existed at that time to be sure if we got all the information. --CarTick16:54, 17 November 2009 (UTC)reply
we need to create one section which would detail the election dates, the turn out, the conduct of the election and related violences if any. if we can get our hands how the campaigning was conducted, that would be great as well. such as movies, speeches, and other routine stuff. --CarTick19:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)reply
DMK propaganda wing was cranking out non stop in the 60s. we would get tons of material - films, songs, double meaning dialogues, allegories etc.
generally reliable. Thinnai, kalachuvadu and uyirmmai are part of the "respectable" siru pathirikkai circuit. Lets say they are atleast as reliable as ananda vikatan or dinamalar or junior vikatan. Mostly in the small magazines, the data errors are less as their readership is generally more intellectual and prone to nitpicking. --
Sodabottle (
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20:38, 17 November 2009 (UTC)reply
they have their editorial slant and axes to grind, but information accuracy is as good as a mainstream tamil magazine. lower down the totem pole comes keetru.com, which is a commie mag and fudges data sometimes.--
Sodabottle (
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20:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)reply
all six of them should be in the united front column. Three were muslim league allied with dmk and the remaining three (subbiah mudaliar, subbaraja, kbs mani) were dmk backed independents
[14]. confirmation comes from the fact, no dmk candidate was fielded in those constituencies.--
Sodabottle (
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20:21, 17 November 2009 (UTC)reply
removed subbaraja from dmk backed indies. a cpm candidate was in fact fielded left the remaining two in position. mudaliar contested in "lion" and formally joined DMK in 71. KBS mani seems to be a RPI candidate/congress rebel. these things make me wish my grand dad was still alive. dude was a DMK faithful and would have known what was going on--
Sodabottle (
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15:43, 18 November 2009 (UTC)reply
GAN is heavily backlogged, so you might want to go look for a reviewer. I had to go around with a begging bowl to many people to review
R. K. Narayan. No one on
WT:INB pays much attention to review requests generally. -
SpacemanSpiff17:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)reply
year of the image is going to be a problem. I have no idea how to find it. someone has to help me or we may have to remove the image which is not going to be very nice. we may replace with the flag of the party instead.
I attributed the opinion to the author instead of making it sound like a fact.
will try to find the election dates. we have sources which have that information. just dont have access to it.
photograph of annadurai is 1967 official CM portrait when he took office. it hangs in many govt offices (or used to). I cant find any online source for proving that. If not we have another PD image here - anna100.tn.gov.in/anna.gif--
Sodabottle (
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08:29, 21 November 2009 (UTC)reply
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That is a good alternative. First, I want to make sure this picture can or can not be used. I will post your question on the India discussion board. --CarTick01:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)reply
File:Annadurai and Periyar.JPG: check if the uploader took the photo or is an official representing the Dravid organization, only then can (s)he release the work in PD. If the uploader has scanned or photographed the original picture, it is a derivative work and thus the original creator may hold the copyright. The photo also lacks a date. --
RedtigerxyzTalk10:13, 23 November 2009 (UTC)reply
28. Term of copyright in government works In the case of government work, where government is the first owner of the copyright therein, copyright shall subsist until 17[sixty] years from the beginning of the calendar year next following the year in which the work is first published.
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Well as per the message left on
my talk page by Redtigerxyz, I had forwarded the emails concerning the pictures in July. I did not hear anything back on the licence issue and so am assuming it is still acceptable as PD. FYI the image licence were obtained by
User:Wiki Raja as a PDF file (containing loads of images) from
Dravidar Kazhagam which was forwarded to me to help in uploading. Cheers Wiki San Roze†αLҝ14:39, 23 November 2009 (UTC)reply
If the picture is owned by Dravida Kazhagam and if the official who released the pictures had the authority to release them (even if he personally did not take the pictures), that should do. As long as the e-mail he sent mentions this and his credentials and if we can independently confirm these (especially his credentials), we are fine. --CarTick16:38, 23 November 2009 (UTC)reply
Hello, this is just a heads up to inform you that
File:MGRPposter.jpg, which is used in this article, has been nominated for deletion at PUF by myself. You can see my rationale and add your input on the nomination page, which can be found
here. Thanks,
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16:53, 9 February 2012 (UTC)reply
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