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Football World Cup 1966 → 1966 FIFA World Cup – following the consensus of naming the World Cup articles as FIFA World Cup in Wikipedia, and consistency of naming the major international football tournaments.
Discuss here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Competitions#Requested move of Football World Cup articles. -- Pkchan 10:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
For hursts sake u lot. The famous commentary is some of the CROWD are on the pitch.
Poor Pickles, but what has his death got to do with the article? ( Pally01 14:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC))
For Hurst's sake go to
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/30/newsid_2644000/2644065.stm and you can hear the actual commentary which is: "some people are on the pitch..." rather than "the crowd". Either way, though, this means that the fourth goal should not have been allowed as the match should really have been halted due to the pitch invasion.
Davkal
11:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't understand the comment "1966 was a World Cup with few goals as the teams began to play much more tactically and defensively" - what is the evidence for this? The goals per match were almost the same as in the previous tournament in Chile in '62 and more than in modern tournaments. The final ended 4-2!
-- 203.173.42.48 00:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC) G Watson gwat@optusnet.com.au
The goals per game ratio for all world cups are as follows:
1930 3.89,
1934 4.12,
1938 4.67,
1950 4,
1954 5.38,
1958 3.6,
1962 2.78,
1966 2.78,
1970 2.97,
1974 2.55,
1978 2.68,
1985 2.81,
1986 2.54,
1990 2.21,
1994 2.71,
1998 2.67,
2002 2.52,
It would seem from this that the 1962 world cup was the one where the trend for fewer goals started and this trend has continued right through til 2002. Also, while checking this I corrected the group 2 table re Spain's GF, GA & GD from 2, 4, -2 to 4, 5, -1
Davkal
12:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
"England's total of eleven goals scored in six games set a new record low for average goals per game scored by a World Cup winning team. The record stood until 1982, when it was surpassed by Italy's twelve goals in seven games; in 2010 this record was lowered again by Spain, winning the Cup with eight goals in seven games. England's total of three goals conceded also constituted a record low for average goals per game conceded by a World Cup winning team. That record stood until 1994, when it was surpassed by Brazil's three goals in seven games. Spain again lowered the record to two goals by conceding them during the group stage and then shutting out its four knockout stage opponents by 1–0 scores." - I completely dont understand this paragraph since Brasil in 1944 World Cup scored 11 goals in 7 matches (5 Romario, 3 Bebeto, 1 Branco, 1 Santos, 1 Rai) can somebody explain it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.191.162.73 ( talk) 20:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
On the article about Geoff Hurst it says: "The debate on Hurst's second goal will last forever. Advances in technology have never conclusively proved that the ball crossed the line, and generally support the opposite view, but Bakrahmov was insistent at the time and continued to justify his decision in decades to come until his death." However, in this article it says it is proven without doubt that the ball did not cross the line. There is a clear contradiction between both articles. Somebody with access to actual and reliable sources about that should check it and determine which one of the two articles is correct.
see http://www.4rfv.co.uk/industrynews.asp?ID=51603 New high definition footage shows the ball didn't cross the line. Davkal 12:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't think the section on the final deals with the issue of England's third goal very well at present. It would probably be best, I think, to say something about the new technology immediately after the description of the goal in the main paragraph. I also don't think the line "had then goal been knocked off England would still have won" should be there. That is, in an encyclopedia we probably shouldn't go in for "what ifs". Otherwise, some German (or Scot) might write, " although had Hurst's second "goal" not been given and had play been stopped for the pitch invasion then the game would have been settled on penalties" or something.
Also, and less controversially, in the main paragraph it say's England's 3rd was scored in the 98th minute but in the summary of all the games at the bottom the time is listed as 101. I have checked another website and it says the 100th minute! Can we get this from a definitive source and amend. Davkal 13:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
FYI If it had ended 2:2 it would have been decided by "drawing lots" - perhaps tossoing a coin? However :-), since the whistle hadn't gone, the game would have been restarted after moving the crowd back, and Engalnd would still have had a second or two get get the third. -- 220.237.77.131
FYI a replay date of 19.30 BST Tuesday August 2, 1966 was announced for the event that the final finish level aet. Slumgum T. C. 12:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
At some point, someone inserted as a definite fact that Hurst would not have scored his third goal if his second had not been allowed. This is clearly POV and unverifiable, so I removed it. TheAstonishingBadger ( talk) 22:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
The site that claims HD proves the ball definitely didn't cross the line isn't exactly a reknowned news source - Are there any articles about it from a better known source? If not then I don't think it should be in the article, considering that it's quite a large claim. KidCanary ( talk) 13:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Could someone explain why teams were only awarded two points for a win in the group stages and when did this change? James Fitzy 20:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
3 points for a win only came into football fairly recently. USA 94 was the first world cup to use this format and this is mentioned in the article on that world cup. Prior to this, it was always 2 points for a win in virtually every league competition the world over (except England which had used this system since 1981) so I don't think it needs to be mentioned re every tournament/league prior to 94. We could insert links to the stub-article Three points for a win for anyone interested??? Davkal 10:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, although I wasn't trying to get it added in this topic. I did try to look in other topics which may mention it but to no avail. I'll check the World Cup page James Fitzy 20:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
ENGLANDS GROUP STAGES how come it says 2 games were played in wembley at the same time
Another victim of my Crid Freddi troubleshoot (see 1950 talk), here's what he says: "Every known source, Spanish and otherwise, credits Spain's equalizer to Pirri, who was winning his first cap - but that's not how it looks on the screen. When a Suárez cross is headed almost straight up in the air, Pirri jumps for it with Roma, but it's clearly the goalkeeper's hand that dunks it in the net like a water pop player. Not the way he'd have chosen to celebrate his 34th birthday." Mjefm 19:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
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Where does Bertil Loow come from ? Sweden or Belgium ?? In the group A matches report, he written as Sweden but in the list of referee he written as Belgium. Which one is correct ?? Albert ( talk) 10:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
He is definitely Swedish - just do a Google search on his name. There should also be an umlaut on the second o. I shall change it. Rbakker99 ( talk) 06:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
On 8th July 2007, the description of England's third goal was changed from "bounced down onto the goal line then back into the field of play [...]" to "bounced down into the goalmouth just."
This latter phrase persists in the latest version (as of 23 June 2008). Am I alone in thinking this is a very clumsy phrase?
I am new to Wikipedia so I don't dare change anything that isn't clear cut. I would like to suggest changing this to:
"bounced down onto or near the goal line."
Please make the change if you agree, and if it's something that won't be shot down.
Rbakker99 ( talk) 06:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I've changed it as described. Rbakker99 ( talk) 05:30, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Joao Havelange (his name isn't even spelled correctly) doesn't really deserve a mention here. He wasn't the president of FIFA in 1966, and he doesn't say how he knew the result was fixed, or how it could even be arranged. Sounds more like a "we wuz robbed" statement by a supporter who is bitter that his team didn't win.
Even if it is included, why right in the middle of the description of the final?
Rbakker99 ( talk) 01:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Interesting that he also claims the 1974 World Cup was fixed, but not 1978 (when was in charge) and not 1970 (when Brazil won). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
Rbakker99 ( talk) 01:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
talk in a childs way so that a child will understand -- 87.114.157.56 ( talk) 10:04, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to show the venue stadiums as they were in 1966 or thereabouts? Gwladys24 ( talk) 23:53, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
At the bottom of the article it said that this world cup was the start of the rivalries between England, Argentina & England, Germany this is untrue although the English would claim this the Germans have never felt that there is a rivalry between them, the Germans have always considered that the Dutch were their rivals so i had removed this part from the article. Yours Grimm MD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.9.49.192 ( talk) 18:55, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering if there was one, it seems like most other world cups have one. Doc Quintana ( talk) 00:32, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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Re this reversal of my edit with the following suggestion: "we count seats". What does this mean? Goodison Park in 1966 did not have 55,000 seats. The stadium would have been about 3/4 standing/terracing and capacity would have been just below 70,000. Simple mathmatics tell you your suggestion does not ring true. Babydoll9799 ( talk) 13:39, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
{{geodata-check}}
This is Anfield, not Goodison Park
Umberto Baldi
It's absolutely disguting this behavior is tolerated on wikipedia. The video evidence clearly shows no handball ever occurred. There are tons of video edits of this game and the various aspects of it such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvxVGMOgmcU which easily shows no handball occurring. repeating a lie over and over does not make a lie true, nor should wikipedia tolerate blatantly false British propaganda on this site. Any other further fairytales will likewise be removed Whatzinaname ( talk) 17:01, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
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The coordinates of several of the venues are completely wrong:
1) White City and Wembley are on top of each other.
2) Middlesbrough seems to be placed around where Liverpool is
3) Liverpool and Manchester both seem too far east
4) Sheffield is placed way too far north, it's not much above 53N (about 53°20' I think). The latitude given of nearly 55° is about right for Sunderland (Newcastle is right on 55N)
5) Sunderland seems to have Middlesbrough's position.
6) Villa Park looks about right at least.
Walshie79 ( talk) 05:31, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
I think the Quarter-finals match between England and Argentina deserves an article of it's own, just like the 1986 Quarter-finals match has, I mean, it was on this match that the rivalry between Argentina and England began, there was also Rattin's controversial expulsion, and etc, why not create one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.19.99.95 ( talk) 05:42, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
"Havelange can't say that because he was there" that didn't stop people who weren't there in 1934 world cup to say it and this wikipedia to report it. What's the criteria? If it's England only the best of proofs, for others anything goes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.232.211.216 ( talk) 09:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Geoff Hurst entered the World cup stage as a replacement for Jimmy Greaves. But ended up scoring a controversial hat trick in the Final, Hurst's second goal which was bounced by the crossbar was not showed crossing the line in the highlights of the match (available in FIFA+). But the USSR linesman said that it did, Hurst scored again during extra time. The goal still remains controversial. And for experts Frenchman Kylian Mbappe is the only man to score a hat trick in the final 2001:1A10:1085:5901:58B9:A517:2FDE:F549 ( talk) 11:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)