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Grimes may need to be removed from this list at some point as he tested positive for ephedrine just days before his personal best run. ( BBC report) However, I'd like to stick with the IAAF's judgements here rather than striking off athletes on editors' terms. Sillyfolkboy ( talk) ( edits) WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU! 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Any source for this? A runner does not go slower because he fears he is about to become the 69th fastest rather than the 71st fastest. I think it is dubious to describe it as a physical barrier, as it is an achievement but not more difficult in nature than any other shaving of a fraction of a performance time. Kevin McE ( talk) 17:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I highly doubt that such psychological underpinnings were the biggest factor preventing white men from going sub 10s in the 100m for 4 decades while Africans did it.. Is that the reason why such a higher percentage of black athletes than white can clear the 40" vertical in the NFL and NBA, a disparity which is proven again and again in the combines every single year? Is there a psychological barrier preventing other races from beating Eastern Europeans in competitions of upper body strength? Is it a lack of belief in oneself that prevents a Chinese man from growing as tall as a man of another race? Seriously, people, if we only allowed science to explain things when they are perceived to be non-offensive to everybody, we'd still be following a geocentric model when studying astronomy. Great Danes and Chihuahuas are the same species, but they have vastly different attributes. Believe it or not, this stuff applies to people, too, and it's not limited to just melanin deposits in the skin. Have these differences led to exaggerations, profiling, and stereotypes that have divided and hurt people in the past? Of course, but don't go around insulting everyones' intelligence by telling them the sky isn't blue. Ignorance is not the solution to race problems. Information and acceptance work much better.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.232.48.192 ( talk • contribs)
Most of the modern western world is familiar with, and in fact, has been inundated by the notion that all races have exactly the same chances to be born with any given attribute, with the exception of skin color and other purely cosmetic variables. Many people discover early on how convenient and unscientific this perspective is and tacitly retain their own opinions that more accurately reflect the way the world operates, living in fear of being accosted by a mob of uppity suburban white folks should any stereotype, even a positive one, escape their lips. This particular instance of censorship keeps some poor company, if you take a moment to remember all of the other cases in human history where the truth took a back seat to some carefully prepared message meant to maintain order. It's not a good precedent that has been set. Does having black skin make you jump higher and run faster? No. Like you said, you have to dive a little deeper into genetics and biology to find why the two attributes are correlated. But the point is that they are correlated. Yes, a great white runner is probably gonna be faster than a black slowpoke. Similarly, a quick, slender golden retriever might be able to outpace a greyhound who was born with stubby legs. But don't sit there and tell me that the average retriever can keep up with the average greyhound. With 40 years of seeing the same mark eclipsed by one race but not by another and the same phenomenon occurring with jumping and sprints at pro combines where peoples' jobs rest on the accuracy of those measurements.. don't tell me it's a coincidence. No, melanin levels in the skin don't cause anything we're talking about, but for people to deny the *correlation* in any shape, form, or fashion is just silly and insulting to anybody with two eyes and a cerebral cortex. Don't you get it? I hate being lied to. It's just that simple. The fact that people get so incredibly butthurt when someone says that the average person of race "X" is more "Y" than the average person of race "Z", even if it's the truth, is the problem. I'm not some white supremacist. I'm Mexican/Nicaraguan and I love statistics and facts and numbers. It's so ridiculous when people inject their emotions and social commentary into a data set collected and compiled by people who have no agenda except to measure accurately. Correlation doesn't imply causation, but that doesn't mean you just suddenly say there's no correlation. I'm not trying to extract any revelations from anyone or change their perspective on race or social strata or anything like that. If you'd like to be diplomatic and inoffensive at all times, I have no problem with it. If a pc type said to me "yes, there is a correlation between race and running speed, but there's more to it than that and why does it really matter anyway?".. I would be fine with that. It's just no fun to have a discussion if one party is operating outside the confines of reality.
I think that this article should be shortened and merged with the regular 100 metres article. Furthermore, I think that spelling out the entire list of sub-10 sprinters is rather silly, especially since, at some point in the future (maybe even within 5-10 years), the list will be so long that it will greatly dwarf the rest of the article. However, it would still be nice to note that X number of sprinters have broken 10 sec, and maybe some other nice facts. Mipchunk ( talk) 09:48, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Can someone tag this with the incomplete banner - it is missing several notable sprinters who are sub-10 secs such as Asafa Powell and Tyson Gay Thelostlibertine ( talk) 12:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to see the number of how many times each runner has broken the 'barrier'. Now it's only mentioned in the section 'Hand timed marks'. Just read from a newspaper that Asafa Powell has the most of these. 82.141.118.32 ( talk) 14:22, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
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According to this article, Yohan Blake broke the 10-second barrier on 11 July 2009 when he was 19 years and 197 days old, but the referenced source [1] shows that it was on 10 July 2009. I know nothing about thetrack and field athletics so I hesitate to touch the article myself. I would appreciate it if someone more knowledgeable could confirm the information and, if necessary, make appropriate revisions to the relevant articles. (If it was one day earlier and Blake was one day younger, then that will make Seun Ogunkoya the second youngest, but not tie with Blake.)-- Dwy ( talk) 06:53, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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Eugene's 9.93 is an official time and not in the list 89.197.184.180 ( talk) 14:06, 8 November 2023 (UTC)