14:0614:06, 18 August 2005diffhist+26
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May 30
'm restoring this - the pro-English nature of the tribunal is attested in English government records - it's frankly better documented than her execution itself.
02:1702:17, 23 May 2005diffhist+7
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Gilles de Rais
Unfortunately, Wikipedia lists Jean V of Brittany as the "VI". Most historians consider him the 5th, but this change would require extensive renaming of articles.
02:0702:07, 22 May 2005diffhist+26
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May 30
I'm restoring this - the pro-English nature of the tribunal is attested in English government records - it's frankly better documented than her execution. If one is "POV", then so is the other.
4 May 2005
03:1603:16, 4 May 2005diffhist+11
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Joan of Arc
This has nothing to do with glottal-stops. Kindly provide a date for this family tree, just as all the others have a date provided.
3 May 2005
03:2303:23, 3 May 2005diffhist+15
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Joan of Arc
Please get a book on medieval French and see that apostrophes were not used, as I said before. There is no need for further argument on such a basic point.
2 May 2005
02:5102:51, 2 May 2005diffhist+15
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Joan of Arc
The apostrophe alone proves that it was later than the 15th century. Cite a date for it, in conformance with the other examples given.
1 May 2005
02:5602:56, 1 May 2005diffhist−1
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Jacques d'Arc
When a name ends in an "s", the possessive is formed by adding just an apostrophe, rather than an " 's ".
02:5602:56, 18 April 2005diffhist+69
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Joan of Arc
As you requested, I've cited 15th century manuscript sources. If you really want to add "de Arc", then you'll have to likewise cite a source.
17 April 2005
03:1603:16, 17 April 2005diffhist−221
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Joan of Arc
If you're not willing to accept any compromise, let's just mention the modern form and leave it at that.
16 April 2005
03:2603:26, 16 April 2005diffhist+76
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Joan of Arc
Here's a version which will hopefully address your views without implying that it was actually written "de Arc" in the 15th century. Otherwise, let's just eliminate this footnote.
15 April 2005
02:5902:59, 15 April 2005diffhist+65
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Joan of Arc
All of the forms I listed are found in 15th century manuscripts. As a compromise, I've added another sentence for other forms.
03:1903:19, 14 April 2005diffhist+16
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Joan of Arc
This footnote had always presented 15th century spellings; the new addition merely makes it clearer (in response to your own comments) and is not "frivolous". Please just leave it be.
13 April 2005
03:2403:24, 13 April 2005diffhist+12
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Joan of Arc
Amended, although the footnote's final sentence had always made it clear that it was referring to 15th century spellings of her name.
02:5502:55, 11 April 2005diffhist−289
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List of occultists
Please don't undo everything which had been worked out a few months ago. Reverting to previous version, and hoping that this can be allowed to rest again.
02:4402:44, 10 April 2005diffhist−8
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Joan of Arc
There wasn't any source of any kind from the 15th century which used the form "de Arc", and no such source has been cited.
02:4102:41, 4 April 2005diffhist+158
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Joan of Arc
There was no standard form given by Joan or anyone else, nor could there have been: spelling in the 15th century was phonetic rather than standardized.
3 April 2005
03:5103:51, 3 April 2005diffhist+57
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Joan of Arc
An apostrophe was _not_ used to indicate a glottal stop in 15th century French. The form "D'Arc" is a very recent attempt at compromise, and does not date to the 15th century.
2 April 2005
03:5303:53, 2 April 2005diffhist−212
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Joan of Arc
Revert erroneous information - "d'Arc" (with an apostrophe) is not a 15th century spelling found in her birth records, and in fact no apostrophe was ever used in 15th century contracted forms.
04:4604:46, 31 March 2005diffhist+1,319
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Talk:Joan of Arc
Restoring -- Criticisms of ungrammatical edits are not "personal attacks", and you are not allowed to delete other people's posts merely because they criticized - that's considered vandalism.
03:3103:31, 27 March 2005diffhist+89
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Joan of Arc
The phrase: "declared her innocent in 1456 from a postwar appeal" is ungrammatical (improper use of "from"). Rewording and adding extra historical detail.
03:2903:29, 27 March 2005diffhist+22
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Joan of Arc
Clarifying and breaking it up into two sentences, each with its own main topic, in order to respond to your objections.