so, I am wondering how I should go about editing an article about the transportation history of Columbus, Ohio, to include a group known as Greater Central Ohio Public Transit Project and their goals of seeing Monorail brought back as a consideration for the mass transit in the city. Their group exists on facebook only, however there was at one point a letter to the editor article written to the Columbus Dispatch by who appears to be the group founder. The current only way to access that particular article is through the Columbus Library system, however, so such link does not seem proper for the edit to the article. I tried editing the article but was only able to include the link to their official Facebook group, is that enough in this case?
General Greenstar (
talk)
00:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
General Greenstar, for an article to be written about a subject, en:Wikipedia requires that the subject should be notable. It provides criteria for this. It's not necessary that every ingredient of an article is notable; however, there is an expectation that an ingredient isn't merely trivial. Now, the Greater Central Ohio Public Transit Project has an imposing name (and one that suggests worthy aims); however if (i) the GCOPTP "exists on facebook only" and (ii) you feel the need to point out that a person "who appears to be the group founder" at one point wrote a letter to the editor of Columbus Dispatch, I sense that showing that it rises above the trivial would require some desperate barrel-scraping. --
Hoary (
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05:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Columbus should consider using a monorail system, Columbus Dispatch, The (OH), January 27, 2020, p12B (columbuslibrary.org) this is the actual source from the Columbus Dispatch, it is only currently accessible if you are a Columbus Resident with a library card, but it does exist.
General Greenstar (
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18:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Mass-linking inside articles
Hello! I've been trying to add wikilinks towards the article
Highly Cited Researcher inside articles of researchers included in the program. I have been using
FindLink, but adding the backlink to every article in the list is tedious.
They are the same. A link to either is fine, though it's a redirect to a section, when the direct link to the
Highly Cited Researchers program would be better. Thus, if the text "highly cited researcher" in an article is unlinked, it should be linked to one of these.
BhamBoi (
talk)
00:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
You could add a request at
WP:AWBTASKS. A Wikipedia search for "Highly Cited Researcher" finds 509 hits, presumably the same as FindLink, and a Wikipedia search for "Highly Cited Researchers" finds a different list of 516 hits, some of which are webometrics highly cited researchers.
TSventon (
talk)
14:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm a AWB user, wouldn't be too bad, but I'm very concerned about the fact that there is nothing on the page being directed to that even mentions ISI.
Naraht (
talk)
14:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Clarivate owns the ISI, and in recent years has stopped branding the program under ISI and has just branded them as Web of Science or Clarivate Highly Cited Researchers. Calling them an ISI Highly Cited Researcher isn't incorrect, it's just what the same program was called a few years back, and linking to ISI or ISI Highly Cited will have a link to the main article.
BhamBoi (
talk)
15:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
When setting width to less than 100%, the box always aligns to the center. float=left doesn't work. Pls change it.
So I'm trying to do this in an html table instead:
but my problem is that the header size isn't expanded to full width (from the beginning). If anyone could help me, I would appreciate.
Emdosis (
talk)
01:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Emdosis:{{Collapse top}} is for talk page discussions and always adds margin: 0.2em auto auto; which centers it. I don't see a need to change that for collapsed discussions. I added min-width:36em; to your above table. Is that OK? If the content is larger than 36em then "show" will expand the heading to the right. If it's smaller than 36em then there will be some whitespace in the expanded box. 36em matches the current content for me and em sizes are more consistent than px or %.
PrimeHunter (
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10:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Emdosis: Where do you want to do it? Some things shouldn't normally be done but you have more freedom in userspace. I think an override would need
Wikipedia:TemplateStyles to for example add .mw-archivedtalk {margin: 0.2em !important;} in an associated page. You could also remove auto from the output with {{replace}} like this:
@
Junurita For many topics, infoboxes already exist and it is unlikely that you, as a newcomer, will need to create one from scratch. You just need to learn how to fill out the parameters in an existing one. Your recent-created new article at
ethyl copperhad a Chembox added by another editor. That's the standard infobox for chemicals.
Mike Turnbull (
talk)
10:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Great, thanks for wanting to contribute. Writing a new article can be challenging, I would suggest first getting some experience by editing existing articles and using the
new user tutorial. If you still want to dive right in to creating articles, you should use the
article wizard to create and submit a draft. Make sure you have gathered independent
reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the person you want to write about, sources that are not interviews/press releases/the like. You will also need to determine if the person is
notable as Wikipedia defines it.
331dot (
talk)
09:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Anil V Gokhale: Welcome to Wikipedia. Don't. Just don't. At the risk of sounding off-putting, creating a complete, fully-fledged article on any subject on Wikipedia can take many painful (if rewarding) years, not days. Believe. Those who can perform a
triple salchow, or fly a helicopter in instruments-only conditions, or scale the north face of the
Matterhorn, face considerably fewer challenges than someone with a desire to write a WP article from scratch. Most experienced editors here would suggest that you concern yourself with relatively low-level details, perhaps adding to existing articles with
reliable sources. Try
Help:Getting started. I hope your time on WP will be positive and fruitful, but there is a huge
learning curve to be overcome. WP looks easy, but it really isn't.
MinorProphet (
talk)
09:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
OK. I'll do that. I'm not sure templates *can* be used cross-wiki and even if they could, the parameters need to be translated.
Naraht (
talk)
14:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
They can be, but often you need to transfer (and possibly translate) other templates or modules which they depend on as well.
ColinFine (
talk)
16:23, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
I want to change the name of the page "Club de Rugby Xerez Deportivo FC" to "Rugby Union Xerez" because it is its current name and the team disassociated itself from "Xerez Deportivo Futbol Club" years ago.
SkyRugby (
talk)
16:37, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Requesting Deletion of Martha Mbugua's Wikipedia Page!
Martha Mbugua She has personally requested for the page to be taken down but we are having quite the challenge on how to do that!
Kindly assist!
Moengadanie (
talk)
17:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Hello, Moengadanie. Articles can be deleted only if the consensus is that the subject does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability: the subject's wishes are irrelevant (unless the decision on notability is very finely balanced).
However, looking at the article
Martha Mbugua, I don't see that the sources present establish that she meets Wikipedia's criteria for
notability, and a quick search did not find any better ones. I have therefore nominated the article for deletion: see
WP:Articles for deletion/Martha Mbugua.
The deletion is not automatic: the discussion will stay open for at least a week, and anybody may contribute to it. It is possible that somebody will find some sources to establish Mbugua is notable in Wikipedia's sense, in which case the article will probably be kept.
If you choose to contribute to the discussion, please read the linked on the discussion page before doing so. As I explained above, the wishes of the subject are not normally relevant.
ColinFine (
talk)
18:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
REINSTATE MY WIKIPEDIA PAGE
Hello,
I'm Teri McMinn and I played the character 'Pam', the second female lead in the 1974 film, THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE. When I was considering coming out of anonymity in 2008 and attending a horror convention, a young man asked me, "Teri, you know you're on Wikipedia, right?" I then asked, "What's Wikipedia?" He showed me my page in English, "Teri McMinn", and I believe they used the same bio info as my IMDB page bio. For the first time, I saw a picture of me on set, sitting on the porch steps, taken in August of 1973, 35 years earlier.
That Wiki page has disappeared, and I am no longer linked to the page when my name appears in the "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" Wiki page cast. My scenes are taught in film classes around the world. The person who created the page must have removed it for whatever reason. I found two other Teri McMinn pages, one in Portuguese and another in Russian. August 7-9 the entire cast, cinematographer, writer-producer, and others involved in the filming will
celebrate our TCSM '74's 50th Anniversary, with a screening, and panels, at MoMA in New York City. This film is in the Film Archives of, The Academy Of Motion Pictures, The Smithsonian, and is considered a cult classic horror film.
[1][2] Is it possible to have the former page on Wikipedia about me, "Teri McMinn", reinstated? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
Not so,
Naraht. Quoting
WP:DAILYMAIL: the Daily Mail (including its online version, MailOnline) is generally unreliable, and its use as a reference is generally prohibited [...]. As a result, the Daily Mail should not be used for determining notability, nor should it be used as a source in articles. The Daily Mail has a "reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication". (I am unfamiliar with slashfilm.com, and haven't looked at it.) --
Hoary (
talk)
06:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
The article (later turned into a redirect) is
here. (As for what, if anything, can be done about it, I'll leave the matter to others: unfortunately I'm in a rush.) --
Hoary (
talk)
20:23, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Hello, I hope this is an okay type of question to ask here. I copied the citation style 1 templates and modules from here over to another wiki, and it works mostly, but with other language sources it seems to treat the categories they get put in different. For instance if I have a source tagged as Danish it gets categorised as "CS1 dansk-language sources (da)", but on Wikipedia the category is named "CS1 Danish-language sources (da)", same goes for other languages including non-latin alphabet ones. I've searched through the modules and I can't find any issues in our copy, so I don't know if there's a module I'm missing or if its an internal Mediawiki thing I don't know about. Thanks!
Ringtail Raider (
talk)
22:15, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
The correct place to ask this question is at
Help talk:Citation Style 1. When you do, tell us which wiki you are having problems with.
I was going to post it there but I was given this message" "Attention
Talk pages in this namespace are generally not watched by many users. Please consider visiting the Help desk for a more prompt response or reviewing the Help contents for quick tips."
Ringtail Raider (
talk)
22:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Really? Where, exactly, did you see that?
Help talk:Citation Style 1 is the place to go for questions regarding the cs1|2 module suite.
Oh, I guess that I've seen it so often that I don't see it. No matter;
Help talk:Citation Style 1 is still the place to go for questions regarding the cs1|2 module suite.
I tried to get the
Philippine politics task force to have an assessment box, including adding a template request to
Template:Tambayan Philippines, and creating categories, yet there isn't a mention of the task force in the WP.1.0 website, any help will be accepted.
Hello, IP user. I have no idea what this means. Are you sure that it is a question about editing Wikipedia? That is the only thing that this page is about.
ColinFine (
talk)
15:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
1992 Olympic Dream Team
Statistic show Charles Barkley as starting 4 games, I love Sir Charles but he did not.
Charles started against Croatia (pool game), Brazil, and Lithuania.
Karl Malone started against Angola, Germany, Puerto Rico, and Croatia(Gold medal game).
WDavidD (
talk)
02:02, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
This is apparently about the GS column at
1992 United States men's Olympic basketball team#Olympic statistics. Every column has an unexplained abbreviaton but the GS numbers go from 0 to 8 and add up to 40 = 5×8 so it has to be Games Started or some variation. Another section uses the source
[4] which says "Chuck started Michael and Magic every game and then rotated the other three. Pippen would start one game, Mullin would start the next. Robinson and Ewing would alternate; Malone and Barkley would alternate." Malone and Barkley are both listed as starting 4 of 8 games so they match that source (if "alternate" means switch every game), but some of the other players don't.
PrimeHunter (
talk)
09:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
@
WDavidD:, there were evidently 8 games, but you have only mentioned 7, omitting Spain. Logic suggests that Barkley must also have started against Spain. The source quoted by PrimeHunter supports this. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195}
94.2.67.235 (
talk)
13:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
This source for the Spain game has a legend indicating * for starters. No player on either team has an asterisk so I guess both teams started the game without players in an attempt to confuse the opposing players. The unusual strategy failed when there was nobody to confuse.
PrimeHunter (
talk)
14:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Blaxown: If this is about something on the Engish Wikipedia, please post in English and be more clear about what you are asking (something existed 15 minutes ago? if I did Google translate right). If you are having trouble with the German Wikipedia, you can ask for help there
de:Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_WikipediaRudolfRed (
talk)
04:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Unable to move my article from Sandbox to main page
I am creating a page for Archana Kapoor. I have uploaded the whole article and added all the references and citations, but I am unable to move my article from Sandbox to the main page. Please help.
Archana Kapoor (
talk)
11:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
First,
User:Archana Kapoor, how are you related to Archana Kapoor? (Are you her? Have you been paid to create an article about her? Etc.) Once this is cleared up, there's quite a list of things that need to be done to
User:Archana Kapoor/sandbox before there's any hope of promoting this draft to article status. --
Hoary (
talk)
12:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Hi, I am trying to help my friend Fabio Mancini's page to be secure. When he asked , the page removed his profile picture and all kinds of warnings. He is retired from being a TOP model and is active in helping the world but his page has been tampered with. Can you help secure the data ?
Sandrajean11 (
talk)
14:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Sandrajean11, I'm afraid you appear to have a (very common) misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia's article about your friend is not in any way his property, or under his control, or for his benefit (except incidentally).
ColinFine (
talk)
15:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks,
Deor. Not quite; just to get the box to sit on the left of the page rather than the right. It seems slightly odd that it defaults to the opposite side of the page to that which English is automatically read from?
——Serial Number 5412917:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
I think the intent is to have it the way it is on
Apollo 11 § External links, with the box next to other text. But in any case, you can pass |position=left to put it on the left instead. Assuming the other sister project templates also pass on that parameter to {{sister project}}, they should work the same way.
Rummskartoffel17:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
You will likely be reverted with a recommendation that you see footnote #1:
As Cooper's authoritative biography explains, McKay's family predated his birth a year to make him eligible to be a student teaching assistant at his eldest brother's school, a fact McKay only learned from his sister Rachel in 1920 -- leading some sources to erroneously date his birth to 1889
WP:DOB says "If multiple independent reliable sources state differing years or dates of birth in conflict, include all birth dates/years for which a reliable source exists, clearly noting discrepancies."
TSventon (
talk)
16:47, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
I've noticed a lot of US election articles contain multiple infoboxes and that those infoboxes will spill into other sections (like in
2006 United States House of Representatives elections in Texas), often resulting in infoboxes going on past the references list and making the page less visually appealing. I was wondering if there is a way to lock infoboxes into their respective section, so that the section itself expands for the infobox and the infobox doesn't spill into other sections, as reducing image sizes will only work to a point. Thanks!
Incognito melon (
talk)
17:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Hi
Incognito melon, I think what you are looking for is
Template:Clear, which stops new text until the previous image/table is complete. The only problem is that it can lead to lots of blank space, which other people find unappealing - best wishes -
Arjayay (
talk)
17:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Why do so many of your editors incorrectly say that books are "entitled"?
The subject line says it all. Why do so many of your editors not know that a book is "titled" -- not "entitled"? For as bad as you all are about gatekeeping Wikipedia, I would at least expect ALL OF YOU to know basic vocabulary.
38.101.16.250 (
talk)
17:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Hi just a feedback. Its good to have a dark mode, but the white text is still too sharp, would be good to have greyer text so it dun stand out so much. Its even better if one can choose the shading grey level or color for text/background, maybe even a few would be nice.
110.235.121.124 (
talk)
22:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Hi IP editor. You are probably aware of the Project Page
WP:Dark mode for this recently-introduced feature. I'm sure the developers would welcome feedback and suggestions on its Talk Page.
Mike Turnbull (
talk)
11:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
sub-subcategories and pages in a category
I'm new to working with categories and have read some of the relevant WP pages (e.g., WP:CAT). Am I correct in understanding that if the page for category A includes both B and C as subcategories, but C is itself a subcategory of B, then C should be removed as a subcategory of A? Similarly, if P appears as a page in category A, but P is also a page in subcategory B, then P should be removed as a page of A? I'm asking because I see some of this cropping up on
Category:Donald Trump page, and I want to make sure that I understand the rules correctly before removing some of the contents on that page. Thanks!
FactOrOpinion (
talk)
22:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)reply
In general, an article or category-page should only be in the most-specific relevant subcategory(ies), not also the parent-category(ies) of those subcats. However, there are some cats that do not follow that pattern (articles being placed in both the specific subcat and also the parent cat). Which way to handle it is based on the specific cats themselves. These ideas are discussed in the
WP:SUBCAT subsections of the WP:CAT guideline, with the key term of "diffusing".
DMacks (
talk)
03:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
An additional question: I noticed that on the Category:Donald Trump page, an editor's sandbox (User:YassifiedAndSlaying/sandbox) shows up as a page in the category. This editor has placed a number of categories at the bottom of his sandbox page, perhaps not realizing that his sandbox now appears as a page in those categories. I saw that another editor edited his sandbox page, adding
This page will be placed in the following categories if it is moved to the
article namespace.
around some other categories. Is it acceptable to edit someone’s sandbox, and is that particular edit the way to make sure that the person’s sandbox doesn’t appear as a page in those categories? Thanks.
FactOrOpinion (
talk)
16:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
FactOrOpinion *Generally* it is not appropriate to edit someone elses non-talk pages in their area of userspace, *BUT*, removing the pieces that put them into main is a *well* established exceptions. See
WP:USERNOCAT and
WP:DRAFTNOCAT. The most appropriate way is to use
Template:Draft categories around it, but I've also seen simply adding <!-- and --> around the entire thing which is what I sometimes do (and I did for the sandbox in question.
Oops, I see that some mark-up that I included has been replaced by its effect (which I hadn't anticipated, but now makes sense to me). I'm not sure how to show the mark-up itself. Let me try again: ((draft categories| …)) but replacing the parentheses with braces.
FactOrOpinion (
talk)
16:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
IP editor. that's a draft article that has not yet even been submitted for approval. If you believe it contains false information, then you are free to provide
reliably sourced additions and to remove anything that is not sourced. We have a strict policy for
biographies of living people which any accepted article has to meet.
Mike Turnbull (
talk)
11:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
That policy explicity does include drafts. So any unsourced contentious claims can and should be removed. Which claims in particular were you concerned about IP editor? --
D'n'B-t --
14:07, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Repeatedly occurrence of Vandalised activity while utilising undo method for wrong intentions
Hi i am recently invected a mass turbulence activity to vandalise article
Sodhi, leading by two main account believe to be sock accounts
@
khatri20 amd @
User:Rangreta20Note•
User:Rangreta20 was currently banned due its abducting behaviour and abusing the guidelines of
WP:RV But soon after his banned the second master keep such miserable activity even got a warning notification
117.214.152.98 (
talk)
15:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
it does not matter if i am registered today,i have provided good sources with supplementary sources to dispute the false claim stated in article.
The article mentioned Gurus names and 7 gurus strictly belonged to Sodhi Khatri caste and primary source is their writings.
The direct descendant family also claims Khatri status , you are undoing edits based on a based on a single line written in a contemporary book by non native non-historian.
Khatri2903 (
talk)
16:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Documentaries
Why is the music on public documentaries so loud? It is very hard to hear the narrator speaking. It includes National Geographic, and the Smithsonian documentaries. Please, can something be done about this? Many watchers will switch off those shows.
Thank you
CThelma (
talk)
15:49, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Sup all. Is it possible, then, to use an image as background, for example, in a quote box, instead of, e.g., #A1b2c3D4? Not for article space; was thinking for barnstars, userspace malarky. TIA!
SerialNumber5412915:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Clarky71980 The technical answer is "yes" provided you use the
articles for creation process. However, as you are a new user I would strongly advise against trying until you have much more experience on Wikipedia. You would need to show that your club is
wikinotable, which I suspect will be very difficult. Also, you have a
conflict of interest, which makes things even more difficult. If you are paid to run the club, there is a mandatory declaration you must make. Please read
WP:PAID and the other pages I have linked.
Mike Turnbull (
talk)
18:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply
Hello, Clarky71980. I absolutely concur with what Mike Turnbull says; but I will add something.
If you decided to edit primarily in order to learn enough to make an article about your club, you might be disappointed. I suggest that you bear in mind that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in
reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish
notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.
Unless you are confident that at least three sources exist about the club that each meet all three criteria in
WP:42, you are not going to be able to write an acceptable article on it.
I'm thinking of writing my first article about a living author who has published several mysteries which have been reviewed in many reputable publications but there's not much published about her apart from book reviews available other than an interview in a magazine focused on the genre. My question is: do book reviews count when considering notability? They are about her books, not about her. (I swear I saw her name in red on a list somewhere on Wikipedia but now I can't find it.) Ugh, I keep forgetting the tildas!
Itsagazornum (
talk) 18:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Itsagazornum (
talk)
18:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)reply