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Oppose – No benefit for readers at this stage. I understand that the company wishes to elevate Honor to an autonomous brand but today it remains closely associated to Huawei phones. Compare
Mini (marque) which was transitioned from
Austin Mini to a standalone brand after being purchased by
BMW, so they could address other consumer segments than their main brand and develop a range of models instead of calling it the
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Requesting help to implement an expanded article
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edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
I have spent the last several months researching and writing an updated and expanded version of this article. I have been working with Huawei and Burson-Marsteller Hong Kong to ensure the article's accuracy, and was paid to complete this project as part of my work at Beutler Ink. The existing Wikipedia article has a single source and two banners identifying concerns (lack of sourcing and a need for more specific categories). My goals were to update and expand the article by providing a company overview and history, improve its sourcing and structure, and add information about Honor's business model and flagship products.
I won't be editing the article directly because of my conflict of interest. Instead, I've published my draft in my user space here, which editors may review and implement in the main space as appropriate. I'm fine with breaking the article down into sections, separating the discussions in new messages, if reviewing editors prefer. I believe this new draft is a vast improvement over the existing article, and I did my best to keep the content very matter-of-fact, neutral, and easy to verify, but I will let unbiased reviewers decide. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!
Inkian Jason (
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16:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Partly done@
Inkian Jason: Hi, thanks for your edit request. I've taken a look at your proposed draft and I am mostly satisfied with it. I have now implemented all of it, bar one phrase:
The company has described Honor as "a brand that's not afraid to do things differently, to be brave and bring about change".
Although you have provided sources for this, this reads very promotionally and I have therefore removed it. It doesn't make much of a difference to the article anyway, but it sounds promotional (as I'm sure you'd agree). If you're adamant on keeping this phrase, then you may re-write it to make it sound more neutral. Also, I want to apologise for the delay in replying to you - there is a severe backlog. All the best and a happy new year to you,
st170e20:22, 31 December 2016 (UTC)reply
@
St170e: Thank you so much for reviewing this edit request. Your explanation is helpful. Hoping your year is off to a great start, and thanks again for your assistance.
Inkian Jason (
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16:01, 3 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Edit request to update article
This
edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
On behalf of Huawei via Burson Marsteller Hong Kong, and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I have a request for updating this Wikipedia article's "History" section. Honor has released a few additional products since the Honor 8, so I propose adding the following content after "Honor's third flagship phone, Honor 8, was also released in 2016":
Proposed text
In December 2016, Honor unveiled the Honor Magic, which was launched on the eve of the brand's third anniversary and includes artificial intelligence software designed to provide "intelligent interactive features" based on user data.[1][2] In January 2017, at the Consumer Electronics Show, Honor announced that the Honor 6X, which was previously available in China, would expanded into 13 additional markets, including the United States.[3][4] The phone earned "best of CES 2017" awards from several technology publications, including Android Authority,[5][6]Digital Trends,[7] Slash Gear,[8] and Talk Android.[9] The flagship
Honor 8 Pro, known as Honor V9 in China,[10] launched in April 2017.[11] Honor's fourth flagship phone, the
Honor 9, was released in June 2017,[12] and one million units were shipped within the first month.[13][14]
In December 2016, Honor unveiled the Honor Magic, which was launched on the eve of the brand's third anniversary and includes artificial intelligence software designed to provide "intelligent interactive features" based on user data.<ref name="Wiggers">{{cite news|last1=Wiggers|first1=Kyle|title=With the wave of a magic wand, Huawei unveils the AI-powered Honor Magic|url=https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-honor-magic/|accessdate=10 May 2017|work=Digital Trends|date=December 16, 2016}}</ref><ref name=Magic>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor Magic|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_magic-8482.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=10 May 2017}}</ref> In January 2017, at the Consumer Electronics Show, Honor announced that the Honor 6X, which was previously available in China, would expanded into 13 additional markets, including the United States.<ref>{{cite news|title=CES 2017: Huawei announces global launch of Honor 6x, priced at $249|url=http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/ces-2017-huawei-announces-global-launch-of-honor-6x-priced-at-249-356233.html|accessdate=10 May 2017|publisher=[[Firstpost]]|date=5 January 2017}}</ref><ref name="Woollaston">{{cite journal|last1=Woollaston|first1=Victoria|title=CES 2017: Honor unveils a £225 handset with a two-day battery life|journal=Wired|date=3 January 2017|url=http://www.wired.co.uk/article/honor-6x-handset-ces-2017|accessdate=10 May 2017}}</ref> The phone earned "best of CES 2017" awards from several technology publications, including Android Authority,<ref>{{cite web|last1=Grush|first1=Andrew|title=Best of CES 2017: the most impressive products from the show|url=http://www.androidauthority.com/best-of-ces-2017-741647/|website=Android Authority|accessdate=10 May 2017|date=January 10, 2017}}</ref><ref name="Banerjee">{{cite web|last1=Banerjee|first1=Ankit|title=Interview with Honor VP Zack Zhang at CES 2017|url=http://www.androidauthority.com/interview-honor-vp-zack-zhang-ces-2017-742320/|website=Android Authority|accessdate=10 May 2017}}</ref> ''[[Digital Trends]]'',<ref>{{cite news|title=Digital Trends Top Tech of CES 2017 Award Winners|url=https://www.digitaltrends.com/top-tech-of-ces-2017-awards/|accessdate=10 May 2017|work=Digital Trends}}</ref> Slash Gear,<ref name="Davies">{{cite web|last1=Davies|first1=Chris|title=The Best of CES 2017|url=https://www.slashgear.com/the-best-of-ces-2017-08470808/|website=Slash Gear|accessdate=10 May 2017|date=8 January 2017}}</ref> and Talk Android.<ref name="Herrick">{{cite web|last1=Herrick|first1=Justin|title=Talk Android Best of CES 2017 Awards|url=http://www.talkandroid.com/307941-talk-android-best-of-ces-2017-awards/|website=Talk Android|accessdate=10 May 2017|date=9 January 2017}}</ref> The flagship [[Huawei Honor 8 Pro|Honor 8 Pro]], known as Honor V9 in China,<ref name="Warren">{{cite web|last1=Warren|first1=Tom|title=The Honor 8 Pro is a Huawei P10 with stronger specs and a smaller price|url=https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/4/5/15188462/honor-8-pro-specifications-release-date-features|website=[[The Verge]]|publisher=[[Vox Media]]|accessdate=10 May 2017|date=5 April 2017}}</ref> launched in April 2017.<ref name="GSM">{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 8 Pro|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_8_pro-8568.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=May 10, 2017}}</ref> Honor's fourth flagship phone, the [[Huawei Honor 9|Honor 9]], was released in June 2017,<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/6/27/15879952/honor-9-now-available-europe%7C|title=The Honor 9 is now available in Europe|date=June 27, 2017|first=Micah|last=Singleton|work=[[The Verge]]|publisher=[[Vox Media]]|accessdate=July 18, 2017}}</ref> and one million units were shipped within the first month.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.androidauthority.com/many-honor-9-units-sold-787153/|title=This is how many Honor 9 units have been sold so far|first=Mitja|last=Rutnik|website=Android Authority|accessdate=July 19, 2017}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/07/1-million-honor-9-units-sold-within-first-month.html|title=Over 1 Million Honor 9 Units Sold Within First Month|date=July 10, 2017|first=Joshua|last=Swingle|work=Android Headlines|accessdate=July 19, 2017}}</ref>
Done
Additionally, for the "Products" section, I propose adding "Honor 6C (2017)" underneath the "Honor 5C (2016)" entry. Here is markup with formatted sourcing:
** Honor 6C (April 2017)<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 6C|url=http://gadgets.ndtv.com/huawei-honor-6c-4095|website=Gadgets360|publisher=NDTV|accessdate=10 May 2017}}</ref>
I won't edit the article directly because of my conflict of interest, but I seek a volunteer to make these updates for me, if appropriate. @
Pbsouthwood: I am pinging you since you were kind enough to help with the
Huawei Honor 8 Pro request recently. Thanks for your consideration!
Inkian Jason (
talk)
16:09, 19 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Hello,
Inkian Jason, thanks for the invitation on my talk page. I am always willing to help and as you said this was not difficult in consideration. I can always count on your having your cats properly herded. A pleasure. I have marked 'green tick done' but please come review and let me know if you have any other needs, corrections, concerns. As before I leave for you to close with your resolved template. I have reset the template call to answered...
Fylbecatuloustalk00:41, 28 July 2017 (UTC)reply
This
edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
On behalf of Huawei via Burson Marsteller Hong Kong, and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I have returned with a request to restructure the article's "Products" section to give a clear understanding of the company's product lines. The below markup includes all of the products currently displayed in the article, and does not introduce or remove any sourcing. This is simply a request to re-order the current entries.
If the below markup were implemented, here's how the updates list would look:
If this list looks good to reviewing editors, here is markup for updating the section:
Markup
* V series
** [[Huawei Honor V8|Honor V8]] (2016)<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor V8 – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_v8-8061.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=30 August 2016}}</ref>
** [[Honor 8 Pro]] (Honor V9) (2017)
* N series
** [[Huawei Honor 7|Honor 7]] (2015)<ref name=Honor7/><ref name=Hanson/><ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 7 – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_7-7269.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 7|url=http://gadgets.ndtv.com/huawei-honor-7-2747|publisher=NDTV|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref>
** [[Huawei Honor 8|Honor 8]] (2016)<ref name="Rehm"/>
** [[Huawei Honor 9|Honor 9]] (2017) <ref>{{cite web|title=Honor 9 Profile Page|url=https://www.gizmochina.com/product/huawei-honor-9/|accessdate=30 June 2017}}</ref>
* X series
** [[Huawei Honor 3X|Honor 3X]] (2013)<ref name=Lai/><ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 3X G750 – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_3x_g750-5902.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref><ref name="Low">{{cite web|last1=Low|first1=Aloysius|title=Huawei Honor 3X review review: Meet Huawei's 'true' eight-core smartphone|url=http://www.cnet.com/products/huawei-honor-3x/|website=[[CNET]]|accessdate=8 August 2016|date=13 February 2014|publisher=[[CBS Interactive]]}}</ref>
** Honor 4X
** [[Huawei Honor 5X|Honor 5X]] (2015)<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 5X – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_5x-7590.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref><ref name="Boxall">{{cite web|last1=Boxall|first1=Andy|title=Hands On: Huawei Honor 5X|url=http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-honor-5x-hands-on/|website=Digital Trends|accessdate=8 August 2016|date=21 June 2016}}</ref><ref name="Pesce">{{cite journal|last1=Pesce|first1=Maurizo|title=Review: Huawei Honor 5X: The Price Is Righteous|journal=[[Wired (magazine)|Wired]]|date=11 July 2016|url=https://www.wired.com/2016/07/review-huawei-honor-5x/|accessdate=8 August 2016|publisher=[[Condé Nast]]|issn=1059-1028|oclc=24479723}}</ref>
**[[Huawei Honor 6X|Honor 6X]] (2017)
** Honor 7X
* Lite series
** Honor 8 Lite<ref>{{cite web|url=https://phoneradar.com/honor-launches-stunning-honor-8-lite-india-offline-channels/|title=Honor launches the stunning Honor 8 Lite in India through offline channels » PhoneRadar|date=11 May 2017|publisher=|accessdate=28 July 2017}}</ref>
* Wearables
** Honor Band Z1 (first released as Honor Band Zero in China), a watch-shaped, waterproof activity tracker and health band (2015)<ref name=Aiming/><ref name=Kan/><ref name="BandZ1">{{cite web|last1=Peckham|first1=James|title=Honor Band Z1 review|url=http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/wearables/honor-band-z1-1314234/review|website=[[TechRadar]]|accessdate=9 August 2016|date=11 February 2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal|title=Huawei Honor Band Z1|journal=[[PC Magazine]]|date=22 January 2016|url=https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2496896,00.asp|accessdate=9 August 2016|issn=0888-8507}}</ref>
** Honor Band 3
* Other products
** [[Huawei Honor 3C|Honor 3C]] (2013)<ref name=Lai/><ref name=Stinson/><ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 3C – Full Phone Specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_3c-5903.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref>
** Honor 4 Play (2014)<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 4 Play – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_4_play-6692.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 4 Play|url=http://gadgets.ndtv.com/huawei-honor-4-play-2000|publisher=NDTV|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref> / [[Huawei Honor 4X|Honor 4X]] (2015)<ref name=Ellis/><ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 4X – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_4x-6754.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref><ref name="Mohan">{{cite news|last1=Mohan|first1=Komal|title=Huawei Honor 4X review|url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/reviews/Huawei-Honor-4X-review/articleshow/46754060.cms|accessdate=8 August 2016|work=[[The Times of India]]|publisher=[[The Times Group]]|date=31 March 2015|oclc=23379369}}</ref>
** [[Huawei Honor 6|Honor 6]] (2014)<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 6 – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_6-6461.php|website=GSM Area|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref><ref name="Hoyle">{{cite web|last1=Hoyle|first1=Andrew|title=Huawei Honor 6 review: A budget phone, stuffed with top-end tech|url=http://www.cnet.com/products/huawei-honor-6/|website=CNET|accessdate=8 August 2016|date=31 October 2014}}</ref>
** [[Huawei Honor X1|Honor X1]],<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor X1|url=http://gadgets.ndtv.com/huawei-honor-x1-2057|publisher=[[NDTV]]|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref> also known as the MediaPad X1 (2014)<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei MediaPad X1 – Full tablet specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mediapad_x1-6129.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref>
** [[Huawei Honor 6 Plus|Honor 6 Plus]] (2014)<ref name="6Plus">{{cite web|last1=Hoyle|first1=Andrew|title=Huawei Honor 6 Plus review: A great, affordable phone, muddied by outdated software|url=http://www.cnet.com/products/huawei-honor-6-plus/|website=[[CNET]]|accessdate=8 August 2016|date=20 May 2015}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 6 Plus – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_6_plus-6777.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref>
** [[Huawei Honor 4C|Honor 4C]] (2015)<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 4C – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_4c-7203.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref><ref name="Dhapola">{{cite news|last1=Dhapola|first1=Shruti|title=Huawei Honor 4C review: Stunning rear camera, but lack of space is a disappointment|url=http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-reviews/huawei-honor-4c-review-camera-makes-this-rs-8999-device-stand-out/|accessdate=8 August 2016|work=[[The Indian Express]]|publisher=[[Indian Express Limited]]|date=2 June 2015|oclc=70274541}}</ref>
** Honor 7i (2015)<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 7i – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_7i-7510.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 7i|url=http://gadgets.ndtv.com/huawei-honor-7i-2882|publisher=NDTV|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last1=Lai|first1=Richard|title=Huawei's Honor 7i has just one flipping camera|url=https://www.engadget.com/2015/08/20/huawei-honor-7i-flip-camera/|website=Engadget|accessdate=8 August 2016|date=20 August 2016}}</ref>
<nowiki>** [[Huawei Honor X2|Honor X2]],<ref name="Sivanadan">{{cite news|last1=Sivanadan|first1=Anvinraj|title=Huawei Honor X2 Tablet Available for $352 on Gear Best with Free Shipping|url=http://www.ibtimes.com/huawei-honor-x2-tablet-available-352-gear-best-free-shipping-2070953|website=International Business Times|publisher=IBT Media|accessdate=8 August 2016|date=27 August 2015}}</ref> also known as the MediaPad X2 (2015)<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei MediaPad X2 – Full tablet specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mediapad_x2-7075.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei MediaPad X2|url=http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Huawei-MediaPad-X2-Review_id4027|website=Phone Arena|accessdate=8 August 2016}}</ref>
** [[Honor 5C]] (2016)
** [[Huawei Honor Note 8|Honor Note 8]]<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor Note 8 – Full phone specifications|url=http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_note_8-8231.php|website=GSM Arena|accessdate=30 August 2016}}</ref>
<nowiki>** Honor 6C (April 2017)<ref>{{cite web|title=Huawei Honor 6C|url=http://gadgets.ndtv.com/huawei-honor-6c-4095|website=Gadgets360|publisher=NDTV|accessdate=26 July 2017}}</ref>
** Honor 9i (2017)
I have one additional minor request, which is to replace the infobox image showing the Honor 8 with
File:Huawei Honor 9.jpg, which shows the Honor 9, the brand's most recent mobile phone release. Is there a volunteer who is willing to review this request and copy over the propose markup appropriately?
Inkian Jason (
talk)
16:02, 17 November 2017 (UTC)reply
@
D4R1U5: Since you helped with the
Huawei Honor 9 request, I was wondering if you'd consider taking a look at this request to restructure the brand article's "Products" section and update the infobox image? I've provided precise markup to copy over if the proposed changes are appropriate. If you're not interested, no problem. Thanks again!
Inkian Jason (
talk)
19:49, 29 November 2017 (UTC)reply
@
D4R1U5: Thank you for your help. I see there are two appearances of "<nowiki>**" (see Honor 7i and Honor Note 8), which is my fault. Are you able to fix this by removing "<nowiki>" and adding line breaks before the asterisks? I can provide specific markup if needed.
Inkian Jason (
talk)
20:15, 29 November 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Pbsouthwood: Hello! I noticed the
Honor (brand) page was moved by
User:Ahmadkurdi44 recently, but this talk page was not carried over to correspond with
Honor brand. I think
Honor (brand) is the more appropriate article title, but I will let other editors decide. My primary concern is keeping the article and talk page together, especially since I added a disclosure to
Draft talk:Honor (brand) (formerly
Talk:Honor (brand)). I should note, it's been a while since I've worked on this page on behalf of Honor, and it's changed a fair bit. Are you able to put these pages back together?
Inkian Jason (
talk)
15:16, 12 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Inkian Jason. Please check that the correct page and talk page combination has been achieved. I do not know what
User:Ahmadkurdi44 was trying to achieve, but it was not done correctly and I am not sufficiently familiar with these pages to be sure I have fixed them properly. If you think the page should be moved to
Honor (brand), start a discussion here, motivating the change. It looks quite reasonable to me, but I do not know why the current name was chosen. Perhaps Ahmadkurdi44 can explain their actions. Cheers, · · ·
Peter Southwood(talk):
17:11, 12 August 2019 (UTC)reply
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