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(Discussion moved from Talk:R142A (New York City Subway car))
The R62A, R68, and R68A uses Westinghouse E-Cam Propulsion like the R44. I doubt that XCB248R or XCB248S is the serial code for these new controllers. That was the serial numbers of the old WH Cam Control Packages.
-Again this was copy from car specs and diagrams and just leave it as it right now.
-How is "overkill" and "harder to read". Do you need glasses? Come on! It's readable.
One question: Are you subway fan? If not leave it alone! [unsigned comment by anonymous user
72.11.217.20 16:36 UTC 18 September 2005]
-What reasons? I give you points about this.[17:53, 18 September 2005 72.11.217.20]
- So, you not a subway fan. Tell you what, Why don't you go to this website: [1] and read about the information about NYC Subway. What a noob![17:53, 18 September 2005 72.11.217.20]
A few comments about the specs list.
==Specifications: R-142A "Millennium"==
Car builder | Kawasaki Rail Car Company in Kobe, Japan and Yonkers, NY, USA |
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Car body | pure stainless steel |
Unit numbers | 7211-7730 |
Fleet of | 520 cars |
Car dimensions | 51 ft 4 in (15.65 m) long 8 ft 73⁄16 in (2.621 m) wide 11 ft 105⁄8 in (3.623 m) high |
Track gauge | standard gauge 4 ft 81⁄2 in (1.435 m) |
Doorway width (side—clear opening) |
4 ft 6 in (1.37 m) |
Wheel diameter | 34 inches (864 mm) |
Propulsion system | AdTranz propulsion system (parent company of Bombardier), AC Translition Motors |
Power | 150 horsepower (112 kW) 4 per car |
Brakes | WABCO braking system |
Average car weight (empty) | A-car (with cab) : 73,159 lb (33,184 kg) B-car (without cab): 67,630 lb (30,676 kg) |
Maximum speed | from 55 mph to about 65 mph (90 to 105 km/h) Average about 100 km/h |
Total seated passengers | A car (cab car): 34 B car (no cab): 40 |
Total standees | A car (cab car): 148 B car (no cab): 142 |
Full capacity totals | A car (cab car): 182 passengers B car (no cab): 182 passengers |
Built in 5 car sets | |
Maximum train length | 10 cars (2 units) |
Air conditioning system | Two roof-mounted HVAC units each car. |
Price per car (new) | US$1,215,466 |
or this version
Car builder | Kawasaki Rail Car Company in Kobe, Japan and Yonkers, NY, USA | |
Car body | pure stainless steel | |
Unit numbers | 7211-7730 | |
Fleet of | 520 cars | |
Car dimensions | 51 ft 4 in long 8 ft 73⁄16 in wide 11 ft 105⁄8 in high |
15.65 m long 2.621 m wide 3.623 m high |
Track, standard gauge | 4 ft 81⁄2 in | 1.435 m |
Doorway width (side—clear opening) |
4 ft 6 in | 1.37 m |
Wheel diameter | 34 inches | 864 mm |
Propulsion system | AdTranz propulsion system (parent company of
Bombardier), AC Translition Motors | |
Power (4 per car) | 150 horsepower | 112 kW |
Brakes | WABCO braking system | |
Average car weight (empty) |
A-car (with cab) : 73,159 lb B-car (without cab): 67,630 lb |
33,184 kg 30,676 kg |
Maximum speed | from 55 mph to about 65 mph | 90 to 105 km/h Average about 100 km/h |
Total seated passengers | A car (cab car): 34 B car (no cab): 40 | |
Total standees | A car (cab car): 148 B car (no cab): 142 | |
Full capacity totals | A car (cab car): 182 passengers B car (no cab): 182 passengers | |
Maximum train length | 10 cars (2 units, built in 5 car sets) | |
Air conditioning system | Two roof-mounted HVAC units each car. | |
Price per car (new) | US$1,215,466 |
only difference wikitable template (can use other settings too)
Car builder | Kawasaki Rail Car Company in Kobe, Japan and Yonkers, NY, USA | |
Car body | pure stainless steel | |
Unit numbers | 7211-7730 | |
Fleet of | 520 cars | |
Car dimensions | 51 ft 4 in long 8 ft 73⁄16 in wide 11 ft 105⁄8 in high |
15.65 m long 2.621 m wide 3.623 m high |
Track, standard gauge | 4 ft 81⁄2 in | 1.435 m |
Doorway width (side—clear opening) |
4 ft 6 in | 1.37 m |
Wheel diameter | 34 inches | 864 mm |
Propulsion system | AdTranz propulsion system (parent company of
Bombardier), AC Translition Motors | |
Power (4 per car) | 150 horsepower | 112 kW |
Brakes | WABCO braking system | |
Average car weight (empty) |
A-car (with cab) : 73,159 lb B-car (without cab): 67,630 lb |
33,184 kg 30,676 kg |
Maximum speed | from 55 mph to about 65 mph | 90 to 105 km/h Average about 100 km/h |
Total seated passengers | A car (cab car): 34 B car (no cab): 40 | |
Total standees | A car (cab car): 148 B car (no cab): 142 | |
Full capacity totals | A car (cab car): 182 passengers B car (no cab): 182 passengers | |
Maximum train length | 10 cars (2 units, built in 5 car sets) | |
Air conditioning system | Two roof-mounted HVAC units each car. | |
Price per car (new) | US$1,215,466 |
The tables on this talk page are much easier to read than the format on the existing R142A (New York City Subway car) page, in my opinion. Tedernst 21:28, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
The tables would be fine. Despite the vehement objection somebody put up above, these pages are not primarily written for rail or subway fans. If he loves nycsubway.org, then why bother repeating the same information here? Some suggestions: "Pure stainless steel" is nearly meaningless. Steel is by nature not pure. Do they mean "all stainless steel"? I would think if something says "stainless" and nothing else, most people would automatically assume it's all stainless. Others are called "welded unitized steel," which doesn't say anything about what kind of steel. Meanwhile, the "pure stainless" bodies don't have joining process specified. Why not be more specific and professional? There should be a standardized description, with process first (riveted/welded) then type of material (HSLA/stainless steel/etc.). e.g. "Welded stainless steel" or "Riveted HSLA and stainless." And can somebody check on the R32 page? Somebody put in a note about HVAC after the specifications that contradicts the earlier text and the specs. I would remove it, but I don't know what the truth is. Spiritof76 23:44, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
"The R44s came in singles which needed each other to run, much like the "Protestant Marriages" of the R26/27/28/30s." What does "came in singles" mean? What is a "protestant marriage"?
Singles cars, needs another single car to run.
Catholic (ie R 32) Married cars have link bars and much be brough into the shop to disconnect (the catholic church has no concept of divorce; only annuling the marrage, or saying it never happened)
the 44s, 143s, ect are sometimes called "Mormon" as they are some polyigamis. Metropod 01:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I added a rewrite template to the R68 artlcle. Too many repeated links, bad grammar, random capitalizations, and overall spotty writing makes this article hard to comprehend. Jimzim66 21:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I have proposed that these two articles be merged, as there was but one difference between them, which disappeared in GOH. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 22:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
We should reorganize the R40 into R40S and R40M They have operated in such groups for nearly their whole life. The MTA's own rosters treat them as such, and have for at least 10 years. Considering the fact that we have combined the R32A/R32 and R142A/R142S, it seems highly logical that we would redesignate R40/R40A as such. MrLincoln ( talk) 19:54, 31 December 2008 (UTC) Current Roster for Reference http://www.thejoekorner.com/carassignments/bmt-ind-2008-12-21.html MrLincoln ( talk) 20:02, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
After a good amount of research, we have recently discovered that all R36 cars, including the World's Fair types, are designated as such. Therefore, there are a total of 424 R36 cars: 390 WF types, and 34 ML types. At this point, I am now proposing to merge article R36 World's Fair (New York City Subway car) with R36 (New York City Subway car) to reflect this discovery. The latter page has also been updated reflecting the official MTA designations.
For reference, you may look at the list of the official designations here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/127872292@N06/48294055022/in/album-72157709666433846/