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I think we should change the title of this category from 'Indonesian landlords' to 'Landheeren', which is more specific and accurate.
+Marie+Leung+ ( talk) 02:44, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
— jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) from a casual glance of the articles in this category, most of the landlords seem to fall in the 'Landheeren' category. So, I assumed the category was referring to the more restricted historical period I outlined in the category description. Maybe, we should have 'Landheeren' as a separate sub-category that could come under 'Indonesian landlords', which could in turn stay as a broader category that might include modern-day real estate magnates or Indonesia's massive agricultural conglomerates. I won't make any changes until I hear back from you. Thank you.
+Marie+Leung+ ( talk) 04:39, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
A subcategory 'Landheeren' is not entirely out of place, either, with your category description (or some version of it) transferred there. I'd interpret that as a sort of 'split', so should still get consensus at CfD.
You'll find that the participants at CfD are drawn from a somewhat different population of editors than the ones who respond to {{ help me}} requests. They'll likely have better arguments drawn from policy than I have at my command. Same goes for your other move request. — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 05:18, 16 July 2020 (UTC)